southsider2k5 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 This is how we deal with TigerTrolls around these parts... http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showuser=3970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTalkThai Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(flbob @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 09:29 PM) so, what really worries me? defense. Defense? Defense worries you? The Tigers have Gold Glove caliber defenders at CF, C and 3B. Guillen despite an error here and there is solid at short. Shelton has been nothing short of impressive thus far at first. Magglio is Magglio...you pretty know what you are and aren't going to get...and Thames, Monroe, Gomez in left are certainly servicable. Judging from the season to date, team defense is the least of my worries that have been mentioned thus far. Edited June 30, 2006 by JackTalkThai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoneyman Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 QUOTE(JackTalkThai @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 10:59 AM) Defense? Defense worries you? The Tigers have Gold Glove caliber defenders at CF, C and 3B. Guillen despite an error here and there is solid at short. Shelton has been nothing short of impressive thus far at first. Magglio is Magglio...you pretty know what you are and aren't going to get...and Thames, Monroe, Gomez in left are certainly servicable. Judging from the season to date, team defense is the least of my worries that have been mentioned thus far. at the risk of offending sox fans on *their* board ... :7) this is granderson's first year in the majors. so far so good. there remains the risk of a different reality setting in. i don't know his minor league record (nor do i care, as it's a different world in the bigs). inge stunk up the joint last year at third. his play the past month has been stellar. the risk is that recent performance is anomalous, not past performance. that shelton has been impressive is a surprise. coming into the season, his glove was a legimate concern. as i said, they have gone from near worst to near best with minor personnel changes. that gives me pause. if i weren't a detroit fan, i'd say the team has another half season of proving to go before i'd stop thinking of them as booters and stinkups. but since i love detroit, i'll just say that i'm pleased with the turn around and that i hope (and believe) it will continue. however, i think this is the most likely area of a drop off that could cause wins to turn into losses. is it likely? no. possible? yes, based on prior years with similar guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 QUOTE(JackTalkThai @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 02:59 PM) Defense? Defense worries you? The Tigers have Gold Glove caliber defenders at CF, C and 3B. Guillen despite an error here and there is solid at short. Shelton has been nothing short of impressive thus far at first. Magglio is Magglio...you pretty know what you are and aren't going to get...and Thames, Monroe, Gomez in left are certainly servicable. Judging from the season to date, team defense is the least of my worries that have been mentioned thus far. Yeah, flbob is the man, but when he said that he's worried about the defense, I was kind of left scratching my head. The key defensive positions on a baseball field: 1) Pitcher 2) Catcher: Ivan Rodriguez 3) Shortstop: Carlos Guillen 4) Center Field: Curtis Granderson And to a lesser extent, Third Base. The Tigers are an awfully strong defensive team, just like the Sox. Defense up the middle is what it's all about. You can get away with having a defensive liability at either of the corner OF spots if you are incredible up the middle. You guys may look at the stats of Brian Anderson and Juan Uribe and consider these players to be weak links on our squad, but they are elite defensive players at their respective positions. I don't know if I'm sold on Inge, but like I said, 3B is not as important as the C, SS, and CF slots when evaluating defense. And obviously, pitching represents the vast majority of defense. The ultimate defensive games are: Perfect Games No-Hitters One-Hitters Two-Hitters Shut-Outs And the Tigers lead the league in shutouts, which is a primary indication to me that they have a first tier defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoneyman Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 01:54 PM) Yeah, flbob is the man, but when he said that he's worried about the defense, I was kind of left scratching my head. The key defensive positions on a baseball field: 1) Pitcher 2) Catcher: Ivan Rodriguez 3) Shortstop: Carlos Guillen 4) Center Field: Curtis Granderson And to a lesser extent, Third Base. The Tigers are an awfully strong defensive team, just like the Sox. Defense up the middle is what it's all about. You can get away with having a defensive liability at either of the corner OF spots if you are incredible up the middle. You guys may look at the stats of Brian Anderson and Juan Uribe and consider these players to be weak links on our squad, but they are elite defensive players at their respective positions. I don't know if I'm sold on Inge, but like I said, 3B is not as important as the C, SS, and CF slots when evaluating defense. And obviously, pitching represents the vast majority of defense. The ultimate defensive games are: Perfect Games No-Hitters One-Hitters Two-Hitters Shut-Outs And the Tigers lead the league in shutouts, which is a primary indication to me that they have a first tier defense. all good points. thank you. i remain optimistic and hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loltrain Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) Inge was good at third base last year, too many errors but I believe he was in the top 5 in mlb in range factor and zone rating among qualified third basemen. Edit: He's currently first in RF (Crede is 3rd) and 4th in ZR (Lowell is first) Edited June 30, 2006 by loltrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 30, 2006 Author Share Posted June 30, 2006 this has become the tiger fans congragation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) Just our luck. Sanchez goes absolutely crazy against Sox pitching and Tracey benches him for game 1 vs the Tigers. Pirates up 1 early though. EDIT: Well that didn't last long. 2-1 Tigers after a HR by Thames. Edited June 30, 2006 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34FG56MB52JC Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Looks like Pittsburgh is back to their horrible baseball ways, trailing 3-1 in 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 The Tigers always seem to be ahead in the game early, just like the Sox when they're rolling. These are too good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 QUOTE(hi8is @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 05:14 PM) this has become the tiger fans congragation. the mod's opened pandora's box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 07:49 PM) the mod's opened pandora's box. More users, better pagerank, better advertising, better server, better graphics, etc. I think they welcome the new traffic for the most part, even if it means their job gets a bit harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 06:49 PM) the mod's opened pandora's box. Seems like it's mainly concentrated to one thread, perhaps you could ignore it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfan Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 6-1 now in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 06:59 PM) Seems like it's mainly concentrated to one thread, perhaps you could ignore it? If it stays isolated in this thread only...fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Quick question, where are all the Tiger fans coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 We got a ball game now. 7-5 with a runner on and one out for Bay in the 5th. Kenny Rogers go bye bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 07:57 PM) Quick question, where are all the Tiger fans coming from? I've seen this question asked 3 times now and nobody responds. I would love to find out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 I'd guess some come from Mlive, or just from google. Maybe Kenny Rogers is ready to return to earth for his patented 2nd half swoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jun 30, 2006 -> 08:09 PM) I'd guess some come from Mlive, or just from google. Maybe Kenny Rogers is ready to return to earth for his patented 2nd half swoon. Wouldn't that be nice. Also, it's nice how Pitt gives Freddy Sanchez a rest when we leave and Detroit comes to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Well this game is over. Damaso in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 The Pirates have the permission to use Rally Mojo tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 woo 1 more run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Pirates within 1, runner on third, two out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfan Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 And Grandy saves the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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