LosMediasBlancas Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:02 PM) 87 mph fastballs wont scare em. Freddy needs to get the ball DOWN, and keep it down all our starters are high and in the outer half of the plate. Even an 85 MPH high inside pitch will give you more to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I can't believe Mack's defense in center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:03 PM) Hawk and DJ keep talking about how Garcia has lost velocity on his fastball but they have yet to say why. I thought I heard somewhere it was a concious decision. It's possible the WBC had an effect, but that would have worn off by now. I just want him traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 HOLY CRAP, I agree with Hawk and DJ, preach on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:57 PM) Garcia might as well throw offspeed pitches the rest of the game. Does he have anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 right down the middle and it luckily got smashed back to Garcia? No way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) Hawk and DJ keep talking about how Garcia has lost velocity on his fastball but they have yet to say why. Maybe we should email them and they'd tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) I'd still take Contreras, as at least he can get a K once he has 2 strikes. As bad as this sounds,if the playoffs started next week, I'd go Contreras, Garland, MCCarthy, and stick with that. That's how poor our starting staff has been lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:05 PM) I can't believe Mack's defense in center. I can, you can't put an IF/Corner OF in CF and expect him to play acceptable defense. Once again it's about putting your players in the best position to be successful and Ozzie is not doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxnGiants Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:05 AM) HOLY CRAP, I agree with Hawk and DJ, preach on! What are they saying? Also, Freddy may be sucking - but that run is on Ozzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:05 AM) I can't believe Mack's defense in center. I can. What I cant believe is why Ozzie keeps throwing him out there Edited July 16, 2006 by CYGarland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:06 PM) I can, you can't put an IF/Corner OF in CF and expect him to play acceptable defense. Once again it's about putting your players in the best position to be successful and Ozzie is not doing that. He may be out of position, but he misses the simplest things. Corner outfielders have to catch flyballs too, you know, and one hit right at him that gets behind him? That's miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:05 PM) I thought I heard somewhere it was a concious decision. It's possible the WBC had an effect, but that would have worn off by now. I just want him traded. If he really can still throw 94-95 and is just doing what he's doing because he thinks it works better, its time management steps in and shows him some numbers. I heard that once, but I really doubt its true. I think if he did have the ability to throw harder he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:05 PM) I thought I heard somewhere it was a concious decision. It's possible the WBC had an effect, but that would have worn off by now. I just want him traded. Yeah, we've heard that a few times in some published reports but I'm not so sure I believe it. I would greatly appreciate the insight of the Sox' TV announcers but they refuse to give any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Has Garcia's ERA reached the mythical 5.00 yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:05 PM) I thought I heard somewhere it was a concious decision. It's possible the WBC had an effect, but that would have worn off by now. I just want him traded. Longer season, then the WBC, then Spring training, right into the season. His arm is probably extremely dead right now. He is most definitely hurting the team with his loss of velocity though, and it needs to be addressed either through a long stint on the DL to rest with McCarthy taking his place, or a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:06 PM) Maybe we should email them and they'd tell us. I think they have the same suspitions as we all do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkelstein Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 2-1 Royals, not that it really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:07 PM) He may be out of position, but he misses the simplest things. Corner outfielders have to catch flyballs too, you know, and one hit right at him that gets behind him? That's miserable. The ball is comming at you at a completely different angle in CF, especially the ones hit right at you. I would never stick Cintron in CF and expect him to be able to catch a linedrive hit right at him. You need to have had some experience at the position in order to catch a ball like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(SoxnGiants @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:07 PM) What are they saying? Also, Freddy may be sucking - but that run is on Ozzie. In a nutshell: Sox gotta pitch inside and they haven't been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 1-2-3 inning for bunk ass Jerret Wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:08 AM) If he really can still throw 94-95 and is just doing what he's doing because he thinks it works better, its time management steps in and shows him some numbers. I heard that once, but I really doubt its true. I think if he did have the ability to throw harder he would. In one start this year I saw him clocked into the low 90s and as hard as 93-94 and than in another start that I was at in person I also saw him in the low 90's. He quickly stopped though as he struggled, took off some speed and pitched better and than I remember him commenting for the umteenth time that he wanted to focus on his offspeed stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Mack's stick sure is making up for his D today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misplaced_Sox Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Well Ozzie not wanting Ba in CF today cost us another run.... Hurrah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 (edited) Mack needs to play AT the wall, at least s*** won't get over his head for extras. Edited July 16, 2006 by LosMediasBlancas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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