Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Bruuuuce the goose Levine said JG for young arms??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Why? KW Jon was our best pitcher last year. Don't trade Garland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Given that mediorce pitchers are the free agent market are going to be getting long-term contracts for big money, I would expect Kenny Williams to be able to get a boatload of top prospects for a guy like Garland who is signed to a reasonable deal for a few more seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 What exactly did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 To keep prospects or to turn them into another player...i just dont like trading someone you know will be good for the unknown. I very much dislike the premise of prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Maybe KW gets a better package of prospects (like both Danks and Hurley) for dealing JG instead of dealing Garcia where you may only get 1 of those 2 back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 04:51 PM) To keep prospects or to turn them into another player...i just dont like trading someone you know will be good for the unknown. I very much dislike the premise of prospects. Yes but what did he say. Did he say the two teams have discussed a Garland for spects deal? Was he speculating? Did he say a deal was almost done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 As in we just traded him to the Rangers? Cripes two of my absolute favorites gone in one day? Is this a done deal or just speculation as of this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 04:53 PM) As in we just traded him to the Rangers? Cripes two of my absolute favorites gone in one day? Is this a done deal or just speculation as of this point. speculation...it is bruce levine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why? KW Jon was our best pitcher last year. Don't trade Garland. Based on what? Wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 04:55 PM) speculation...it is bruce levine Well your question marks on the thread title led me to believe it was speculation. But someone could probably change the title a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 02:55 PM) speculation...it is bruce levine I was both giddy and scared at the same time. If they got Hurley plus Michael Young I'd be happy. If we got Hurley and Danks and another prospect like Volquez (or however you pronounce it) I wouldn't have a problem either since it would open the spot for Bmac (even though it wouldn't have been the spot I suspected) while at the same time giving us a boatload of near MLB ready top flight prospects (which we could than keep one of and trade the others or do any combination of the two). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Â Bruuuuce strikes again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 04:56 PM) Based on what? Wins? Â He really was our best pitcher (not saying a whole lot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 How would people feel about Garland for Hurley, Danks and Arias? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 As many people have pointed out he won more games than he should have by the way he pitched. If this happens it should please the people here who like to sell high. I know when I tlaked to people last year no one thought he would resign here because he wanted to go further west. Maybe he and KW had an agreement, you sign a good deal, pitch here one more year to try to get another ring and I'll trade you next year. Â I don't know for sure but almost everyone last year was surprised that he signed in Chicago. Â Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!!!! Shut up KW is on a roll!!!!!! (or at least he might be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Arias has no offense, does he?? Volquez was lit up worse than any pitcher in the history of MLB in 10 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 They played a quote from KW saying something along the lines of  "We've been putting our feelers out there concerning deals, but it's only been feelers so far. We feel like we we're in a good position. We like all of our starters, but we feel like if there is a fit, where we can get major league talent and young pitching (read minor leaguer top prospects) in return, we'd be in better position for the future." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 By the way, in no way do I see us getting Michael Young in this deal but I thought I'd throw it out anyway and I'd have zero problem with Hurley/Danks/Arias all in the same package. At least we'd be getting two front line pitching prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 05:00 PM) They played a quote from KW saying something along the lines of "We've been putting our feelers out there concerning deals, but it's only been feelers so far. We feel like we we're in a good position. We like all of our starters, but we feel like if there is a fit, where we can get major league talent and young pitching (read minor leaguer top prospects) in return, we'd be in better position for the future."  this makes me feel like we are rebuilding..yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He really was our best pitcher (not saying a whole lot). Based on what? Wins? Somebody please break it down for me. I could make a strong argument that Garcia was better in 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 10:04 AM) this makes me feel like we are rebuilding..yikes. I'd call it securing our position to compete in the division for the next 5 -10 years. We're not always going to be able to sign premium FA's, so we still have to develop our own talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 05:07 PM) I'd call it securing our position to compete in the division for the next 5 -10 years. We're not always going to be able to sign premium FA's, so we still have to develop our own talent. Â Â Thats the problem,we dont develop very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 10:12 AM) Thats the problem,we dont develop very well. Well we've had players like Crede, Garland, Jenks etc. come through and become important parts of our ballclub. Â And don't forget at this time last season, our system was quite good with the likes of Gio Gonzalez and Chris Young in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 07:15 PM) Well we've had players like Crede, Garland, Jenks etc. come through and become important parts of our ballclub. And don't forget at this time last season, our system was quite good with the likes of Gio Gonzalez and Chris Young in there.  well we got jenks from the angels... but otherwise i agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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