Chisoxfn Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm really feeling happy about the fact that I will at least get to see Garland kick some butt for the Angels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I think too many people are sellling Brain Anderson short. He will be a good MLB player but I'm not sure if it will be with this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 It just might be one of those seasons where i may watch one game a week... just to see how the young players are developing because its obvious this team is heading nowhere this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(ptatc @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:59 PM) I think too many people are sellling Brain Anderson short. He will be a good MLB player but I'm not sure if it will be with this team. It wont be. Anderson is done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(ptatc @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 09:59 PM) I think too many people are sellling Brain Anderson short. He will be a good MLB player but I'm not sure if it will be with this team. Â It's a real shame we completely gave up on him last year. Of course, I still wish that we would have kept McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 ideally, we ship out old farts like konerko, AJ, Dye, and Thome. This way can can re-stock the farm system. And by 2010, we'll be ready to play again. Especially since by 2009 or 2010 Fields and Quentin will be BEASTS. I am sorry, but what the hell do you think the White Sox are going to get for Konerko, AJ, Dye, and Thome? What kind of young talent do you think we will get in return? Realistically now. These are not superstars that we are trading. We aren't trading a Miguel Cabrera or a Johan Santana. What are you looking to get in return that you think will eventually make this team better in the future? Please tell me. I would love to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:58 PM) Cheer for the Brewers  I actually think I may go to more Brewers games this year.  The best way to tell management that a fire sale is necessary is by my empty seat. I really have trouble believing how we went from World Champs willing to spend to silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Andy Gonzalez will play alot. The attendence will drop fast and often. Â KW will complain about the fans. Edited December 12, 2007 by GoSox05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 What if we sign Alexei Ramirez and put him in CF and bat him leadoff?  CF Alexei Ramirez SS Orlando Cabrera 1B Paul Konerko DH Jim Thome RF Jermaine Dye C AJ Pierzynski LF Carlos Quentin 3B Josh Fields 2B Danny Richar  That gives you 4 key components to your youth movement in Alexei Ramirez, Carlos Quentin, Josh Fields, and Danny Richar. Hopefully you can build around those guys in the near future. Speed, OBP, and athleticism - if it works out. I would much rather have and be more excited about Alexei Ramirez on this team than Fukudome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 10:09 PM) What if we sign Alexei Ramirez and put him in CF and bat him leadoff? CF Alexei Ramirez SS Orlando Cabrera 1B Paul Konerko DH Jim Thome RF Jermaine Dye C AJ Pierzynski LF Carlos Quentin 3B Josh Fields 2B Danny Richar  That gives you 4 key components to your youth movement in Alexei Ramirez, Carlos Quentin, Josh Fields, and Danny Richar. Hopefully you can build around those guys in the near future. Speed, OBP, and athleticism - if it works out. I would much rather have and be more excited about Alexei Ramirez on this team than Fukudome.  Ramirez is supposed to be nowhere near ready to play in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ramirez would be an awesome signing, especially if you made it around the same time you dealt Konerko for a few prospects. Than you wait and try and move Jermaine/Thome during the season and just get as much talent as you can (hold onto Javy and Mark since pitching is harder to find and tell them you plan on going all out in 09 when the team should have more than a few promising young players that are playing at a high level and tons of talent to go out and acquire some of the missing pieces). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 02:10 PM) Ramirez is supposed to be nowhere near ready to play in the majors. Considering he can also play SS, and we just happen to be 1 year away from needing one of those also, that would continue to make that an excellent signing. If Ramirez could play both Cf and SS, then we'd have at least 1 of those holes filled and that would dramatically expand our options in 09. Edited December 12, 2007 by Balta1701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ramirez is supposed to be nowhere near ready to play in the majors. Â I guess you and I are reading 2 different things then. Â http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3026151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 10:11 PM) Ramirez would be an awesome signing, especially if you made it around the same time you dealt Konerko for a few prospects. Than you wait and try and move Jermaine/Thome during the season and just get as much talent as you can (hold onto Javy and Mark since pitching is harder to find and tell them you plan on going all out in 09 when the team should have more than a few promising young players that are playing at a high level and tons of talent to go out and acquire some of the missing pieces). Â If we get rid of the likes of PK, Dye, and Thome, our talent level will be nowhere near good enough to even sniff 4th place in the AL Central for a long time. The problem with a fire sale for the Sox is that the foundation of young players is so pathetic to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Ramirez would be an awesome signing, especially if you made it around the same time you dealt Konerko for a few prospects. Than you wait and try and move Jermaine/Thome during the season and just get as much talent as you can (hold onto Javy and Mark since pitching is harder to find and tell them you plan on going all out in 09 when the team should have more than a few promising young players that are playing at a high level and tons of talent to go out and acquire some of the missing pieces). Â Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 10:13 PM) I guess you and I are reading 2 different things then. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3026151  Yeah, I can't believe his agent is talking him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Considering he can also play SS, and we just happen to be 1 year away from needing one of those also, that would continue to make that an excellent signing. If Ramirez could play both Cf and SS, then we'd have at least 1 of those holes filled and that would dramatically expand our options in 09. Â Totally agree. His contract would probably be cheap enough at either of those positions to help the team to afford some big names while other teams have these big Torii Hunter, Aaron Rowand, and Fukudome contracts to pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Yeah, I can't believe his agent is talking him up. Â Show me something different please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 10:15 PM) Totally agree. His contract would probably be cheap enough at either of those positions to help the team to afford some big names while other teams have these big Torii Hunter, Aaron Rowand, and Fukudome contracts to pay off. Â Don't get me wrong, it would be an interesting signing with some possible high rewards. We've benefitted as much as anyone from the Cuban connection. However, I think KW is still aiming higher than a 26 year old who might be overmatched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 05:13 PM) I guess you and I are reading 2 different things then. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3026151 Yeah, way to quote his agent talking about his great ability...  Meanwhile, he's got what(?) 1 hit in the DWL, where Oneli Perez is a premier closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 sit back, relax and strap it down? Â Â no but really, i do sit back..let this team play...assess what you have in fields richar, quentin, owens/sweeney/anderson, danks, and floyd.....when we are 15 games back at the trading deadline trade thome/konerko/dye or something for even more young players, let those guys play out 2008...save the money we were going to use on hunter and the money we save on trading one of the boppers above and pool it into next years FA (or trade) market....all to set up for 09 and 10...oh and start investing in the draft (including scouting etc. which weve begun to do by getting bell) \ Â on a side note the giants have been talking about a matsui or rios for cain or lincecum.....konerkos contract is not that much unlike matsuis and i think hes the better player....if in fact one of those pitchers is available, why is kenny not dangling pauly? at this point i would consider it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 corey patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 04:02 PM) I actually think I may go to more Brewers games this year. Â The best way to tell management that a fire sale is necessary is by my empty seat. I really have trouble believing how we went from World Champs willing to spend to silence. Â Thats baseball get used to it. And if your dont believe me check with the Dbacks and Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 QUOTE(kjshoe04 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 10:19 PM) corey patterson. Â I'd rather have him than Pierre, no doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Yeah, way to quote his agent talking about his great ability... Meanwhile, he's got what(?) 1 hit in the DWL, where Oneli Perez is a premier closer. Wasn't he hurt or pulled himself out of that due to getting situated with his family? I can't remember everything involved, but there was somethign going on.  Like I told Fathom - please show me something different. I can't find anything else on the guy but positive. I would love to see more. If you have other information then please show it to me. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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