If we got Duchscherer would we assume that Contreras is out of the rotation?

 

I'd rather we went after Lowe in a deal that would also net us LaRoche.

 

Any takers for Logan + Cabrera for Lowe and LaRoche?

then

Poreda + Fields for Duchscherer

then

Vazquez to Mets for prospects

then prospects to Orioles for Roberts

 

This is so easy

 

Buerhle

Floyd

Danks

Lowe

Duchshcerer

 

wow

From now through the end of the 2009 season Javier Vazquez will be a more valuable major league starter than Justin Duchscherer. That is my bold prediction for the day.

What do you mean by that?

 

The crazy trade scenarios you just suggested are straight out of an Xbox

so, all this serious discussion aside...

 

did anyone else eat some s*** today?

 

 

or am i the only one?

All this talk of duscherer and were gonna end up with someone nobody thought was going to get traded from a team nobody is talking about.

 

book it.

The crazy trade scenarios you just suggested are straight out of an Xbox

I was actually only serious about the LaRoche + Lowe for Cabrera + Logan, then I was joking. The odds of one deal are slim let along 3 huge deals.

runny

 

 

 

 

 

dry

 

 

 

 

 

corn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

solid

 

 

 

 

 

 

peanut

 

 

 

 

 

ummmmmmmm - yummy

BTW, I don't ever remember a rumored Sox deal that actually went down, so I doubt this happens.

 

Quentin: Under the radar

Swisher: Under the radar

Cabrera: Under the radar

Thome: Under the radar

Floyd: Under the radar

Danks/Masset: Under the radar

Thornton: Under the radar

Freddy Garcia: Under the radar

 

Does anyone ever remember hearing rumors about any of these? Just curious.

Lol good point. I think in 2004 the Sox were 'one' of the many teams interested in Garcia, but everyone was shocked when it happened. Well hopefully KW shocks us again and nets us Holiday

I was so mad we gave up Miguel Olivo in that deal. KW totally got fleeced!

All this talk of duscherer and were gonna end up with someone nobody thought was going to get traded from a team nobody is talking about.

 

book it.

lol you are probably right! but i am intrigued to hear that KW is being aggressive. Hell yea, he sees another WS chance and he is going for it. Well hopefully... i know it will be hard to part with Fields (especially with Crede's uncertainty) but we have a chance to do it now, and another top of the rotation guy can definitley help that chance.

From now through the end of the 2009 season Javier Vazquez will be a more valuable major league starter than Justin Duchsherer. That is my bold prediction for the day.

 

I would take that bet any day of the week.

 

Duch would have to fall off considerably and Vazquez would need a stroke of good luck. Still very possible because you're talking about a guy with basically no track record as a starter versus a guy with good stuff who's always an underachiever. But Duch would have to fall very hard (his track record as a stud reliever makes me think he'll be at worst a 4 ERA guy) whereas Vazquez would pretty much need another career season.

OMG, a pitcher pitching well without a 95 mph fastball! Plus command, a plus curve, and a good cutter. Sign me up. Don't give a s*** that he can't run it up in the mid 90's. Duch wasn't a failed SP turned RP. In fact, he was damn good throughout the minors. He moved purely based on the fact Oakland's rotation was nasty and the pen wasn't. He became an all-star there, and now he's back in the rotation where he's needed. He's good. Not this good, but he's good.

 

I'll put Buehrle, Duch, Vazquez, and Danks up against any playoff rotation in baseball.

diarrhea

Can't do it. I wan to win more than anyone this season, but not for the Sox final two bullets.

Truth. The guy is going to slow down due to workload any day now and i'd hate to mortgage all we have left in the system. Poreda at worst is going to be a solid pen arm, and Fields is our starting 3B next year.

I was so mad we gave up Miguel Olivo in that deal. KW totally got fleeced!

losing Reed pissed me off so much at the time.

Bernstein just mentioned that various outlets are reporting that KW's talks with the A's regarding a trade for Justin Duchscherer are heating up. Fields and Poreda would likely be involved.

 

This makes me very nervous because I don't like Duch for the long term one bit.

Will Carrol reported it this afternoon too. Said they are legit talks.

Poreda at worst is going to be a solid pen arm

Clearly this is not the worst-case scenario

Because I like adding fuel to the fire, Fields got four AB's in the game last night, and there was no word of an injury.

 

Josh is not in the lineup tonight.

 

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...chraaa_indaaa_1

Anyone know how many games in a row Josh has played?

OMG, a pitcher pitching well without a 95 mph fastball! Plus command, a plus curve, and a good cutter. Sign me up. Don't give a s*** that he can't run it up in the mid 90's. Duch wasn't a failed SP turned RP. In fact, he was damn good throughout the minors. He moved purely based on the fact Oakland's rotation was nasty and the pen wasn't. He became an all-star there, and now he's back in the rotation where he's needed. He's good. Not this good, but he's good.

 

I'll put Buehrle, Duch, Vazquez, and Danks up against any playoff rotation in baseball.

And he moved back to the rotation because he was falling pray to a new injury every other week and spending at least a month per season on the DL. He figured moving to the rotation and pitching every 5th day would help him avoid these injuries. So far so good but when taking into account his medical history, the fact that he hasn't made a start in 5 years prior to this season and hasn't thrown 100+ innings since 2003 what are the chances he holds up to the workload?

Anyone know how many games in a row Josh has played?

I dont know, but it sure is interesting to see with all these rumors.... stay tuned.

Anyone know how many games in a row Josh has played?

7. He's got a nice 7 game strikeout streak going. 6-25 .240 AVG 0 HR 1 rbi 10k's. Jimbo's Drinker would be booing the s*** out of him in Charlotte.

Oakland has Duchscherer slotted for saturday. Im sure if KW brings him over it would be either tonight or tommorow if its going to happen at all.

Well, I'm not sure if I'd be in favor of the move or not, if it happened. He's a great SP this year but like many of you have said, arm troubles due to fatigue are definitley possible. However, hopefully KW makes the right move- if he got Duchscherer, he'd show us we're going for it all this year. I say go for it and pray.

Oakland has Duchscherer slotted for saturday. Im sure if KW brings him over it would be either tonight or tommorow if its going to happen at all.

Not necessarily. Teams are always looking for pitchers. He's cheap and has been on fire this year. Beane may wait until a few minutes before the deadline to see if anyone is ridiculously desperate.

Not necessarily. Teams are always looking for pitchers. He's cheap and has been on fire this year. Beane may wait until a few minutes before the deadline to see if anyone is ridiculously desperate.

If that's the case, why are we giving them arguably our best position player prospect and arguably our best pitching prospect?

If that's the case, why are we giving them arguably our best position player prospect and arguably our best pitching prospect?

I'm talking about his salary. Fields may be the Sox best position player prospect, but I can tell you this, if KW traded a guy having Jason D's season for a 25 year old in AAA hitting .248, not known for his glove work, striking out more than once per 3 ABs, this board would be livid. Obviously a career can be salvaged, but he's certainly not can't miss. But I also agree trading for this guy is dangerous. I don't think I'd give up Fields and Poreda for him.

Edited July 25, 200817 yr by Dick Allen