AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Washburn is on the waiver wire now until 1:30 pm EST tomorrow. Buster Olney on Baseball Tonight just reported from Peter Gammons that the Sox may put a claim in on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Team sources are saying that he has already cleared waivers, so no claim is necassary. Now its up to the teams to work out a deal http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mari...921_mari09.html • Team sources have indicated that pitcher Jarrod Washburn cleared waivers and can now be traded without fear of a claim to block a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 11:48 AM) Team sources are saying that he has already cleared waivers, so no claim is necassary. Now its up to the teams to work out a deal http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mari...921_mari09.html I am only going off what was just said on Baseball tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 10:50 AM) I am only going off what was just said on Baseball tonight. Yeah, I think both your source and my source are equally reputable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 11:51 AM) Yeah, I think both your source and my source are equally reputable. Which means we'll get Paul Byrd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Is it too late to become sellers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Everyone is smiling I want to smile too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 10:52 AM) Which means we'll get Paul Byrd Byrd is shooting high, Im thinking more along the lines of Loaiza again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 10:53 AM) Everyone is smiling I want to smile too. Stop being so damn happy, you are less of a fan for smiling at a time like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 05:53 PM) Everyone is smiling I want to smile too. I think it's because most of us think we're screwed right now with these injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 What about Adrian Beltre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 10:56 AM) What about Adrian Beltre? If Beltre could get to the Sox on waivers, and if Mariners want something decent in return for Washburn, I'd much rather see the Sox do a deal where they get both players in a package. Losing good prospects wouldn't hurt as much knowing that we'd have a 3B under contract for '09 as well. I'd do Poreda + a couple pitching prospects (hopefully without including Griffith, Shirek, or Carter, but one would probably have to go) + all the throw-in guys like Cook, Owens, or Haeger the M's would want, but I doubt that would be enough. Richard, Broadway, and Egbert don't make it through waivers, and I wouldn't want to give up both Shelby and Poreda for those guys. Maybe there would be someone at the Class A level, besides Jose Martinez, who would interest Seattle. That said, I doubt Beltre gets through because he's a guy that teams would be interested in and also know will be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 11:55 AM) Stop being so damn happy, you are less of a fan for smiling at a time like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Whats Washburn's contract status? Would Seattle pick up at least half of the contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I would bet you could get him cheap if the Sox take his contract but if the Sox want them to pick up some of that contract. The Sox would have to cough up more in talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 12:01 PM) If Beltre could get to the Sox on waivers, and if Mariners want something decent in return for Washburn, I'd much rather see the Sox do a deal where they get both players in a package. Losing good prospects wouldn't hurt as much knowing that we'd have a 3B under contract for '09 as well. I'd do Poreda + a couple pitching prospects (hopefully without including Griffith, Shirek, or Carter, but one would probably have to go) + all the throw-in guys like Cook, Owens, or Haeger the M's would want, but I doubt that would be enough. Richard, Broadway, and Egbert don't make it through waivers, and I wouldn't want to give up both Shelby and Poreda for those guys. Maybe there would be someone at the Class A level, besides Jose Martinez, who would interest Seattle. That said, I doubt Beltre gets through because he's a guy that teams would be interested in and also know will be available. I like the way you think, but doubt that will be able to get done for both Beltre and Washburn. Jarrod doesn't excite me but what are our options, ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 04:42 PM) I like the way you think, but doubt that will be able to get done for both Beltre and Washburn. Jarrod doesn't excite me but what are our options, ya know? So Washburn's contract expires after 2009? Than i say lets pull the trigger. I like the fact that we'll finish the year with 3 lefties. His 4.79 ERA is nothing fancy, but its much better than having a revolving door at the 5th spot like we did in 2003 and 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Washburn would be a fair #4/5. We'd be set for 2009 then too. No more prospect trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 If we did get washburn we would probably just be getting the LH version of Contreras, at least in terms of ERA. Washburn is much better at holding runners on, albeit he is a lefty. AT USCF career Washburn is 3-4 with a 3.92 ERA and 1.11 WHIP, he has given up 11 HRs in about 60 IP. Thats the one thing to worry about with this guy at our park, if u equate that to 200 IP that would be about 37 HRs given up, not good. He would be another Gavin Floyd type, prone to the long ball in hitters parks like USCF, Ballpark at Arlington, etc. Though he would probably do well in places like DET and KC. All in all if we landed him I wouldn't expect anything better than around a .500 pitcher with a 4-4.5 ERA, not bad but not great either. The problem is anyone that trades for him is on the hook for 10.35M next year, and I dont think I would want this guy pitching 50% of his games at USCF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I'd rather have Byrd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Where is Felix Diaz or Arnie Munoz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I'd rather have Byrd. Me too. Do we have any other players like Andy Gonzalez where the Indians would be interested in them and Sox fans would love to see them go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 10:39 PM) I'd rather have Byrd. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 04:53 PM) Me too. Do we have any other players like Andy Gonzalez where the Indians would be interested in them and Sox fans would love to see them go? Mike MacDougal and Dewon Day for Paul Byrd right now. Get it done, Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (joeynach @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 02:30 PM) If we did get washburn we would probably just be getting the LH version of Contreras, at least in terms of ERA. Washburn is much better at holding runners on, albeit he is a lefty. AT USCF career Washburn is 3-4 with a 3.92 ERA and 1.11 WHIP, he has given up 11 HRs in about 60 IP. Thats the one thing to worry about with this guy at our park, if u equate that to 200 IP that would be about 37 HRs given up, not good. He would be another Gavin Floyd type, prone to the long ball in hitters parks like USCF, Ballpark at Arlington, etc. Though he would probably do well in places like DET and KC. All in all if we landed him I wouldn't expect anything better than around a .500 pitcher with a 4-4.5 ERA, not bad but not great either. The problem is anyone that trades for him is on the hook for 10.35M next year, and I dont think I would want this guy pitching 50% of his games at USCF. And the flip side of that is that we get a veteran #5 pitcher next season as well, with minimum financial investment (in comparison to signing a FA in the off-season). We all know that Kenny isn't going to sign Sabathia and that there's nothing in our farm system that's ML-ready yet. Agreed that Byrd is the better option for this year alone, but Washburn might be the better overall investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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