I'd give two firsts and a cutler for TO

I'd give two firsts and a cutler for TO

 

You shoudl put this in green before someone finds where you live and attacks you.

if anybody from the Vikings deserves an MVP vote, I think I might go with Jared Allen so far this year

Easily, he's the most dominant force on that team right now.

Easily, he's the most dominant force on that team right now.

 

as a Bears fan, I am not looking forward to the Jared Allen/Orlando Pace matchups coming later in the year

Easily, he's the most dominant force on that team right now.

 

Vikings MVP's in order Allen>AP>Favre

as a Bears fan, I am not looking forward to the Jared Allen/Orlando Pace matchups coming later in the year

 

Right now I think Jared Allen is the most dominant defensive player in the game, but I think Pace would have a harder time with someone like Dwight Freeney.

Orton is not why the Broncos are 5-0 though.

NO s***, YOU THINK.

 

But you can't tell me the NFL doesn't look at that when selecting because there is no doubt in my mind they do.

 

Orton's line is still better than Jay.

 

 

 

 

NO s***, YOU THINK.

 

But you can't tell me the NFL doesn't look at that when selecting because there is no doubt in my mind they do.

 

Orton's line is still better than Jay.

It's my pet peeve.

 

I don't care what Orton's line is relative to Cutler's if Cutler is doing what he was expected to do when he was acquired. I really don't.

 

edit: I thought you meant "stats" and not OL when you said "line"

Edited October 16, 200916 yr by lostfan

Orton's line is still better than Jay.

 

I agree, Ryan Clady is a beast

It's my pet peeve.

 

I don't care what Orton's line is relative to Cutler's if Cutler is doing what he was expected to do when he was acquired. I really don't.

 

edit: I thought you meant "stats" and not OL when you said "line"

 

 

I agree, Ryan Clady is a beast

 

 

Ahh shush, you both knew what I meant by line, (stats)

Edited October 16, 200916 yr by ChWRoCk2

Ahh shush, you both knew what I meant by line, (stats)

 

I like it.

That's a damn good trade by Angelo, especially with Rod Marinelli as the defensive line coach.

Don't they need linebackers and DBs more than DL?

That's a damn good trade by Angelo, especially with Rod Marinelli as the defensive line coach.

 

I think that may be key.

Don't they need linebackers and DBs more than DL?

 

No. A fierce DL will make the LBs and DBs better. C'mon, you know better than that. Domino effect DL////LB////CB _

 

 

This gives the bears the best DE rotation in all of football. Now we have Ogun's replacement.

This gives the bears the best DE rotation in all of football. Now we have Ogun's replacement.

 

How so? You act like you just traded for a pro bowler. He was traded because he has been underachieving for his draft status. Now im not saying he isnt any good, but, its not like you just traded for some dominant DE.

 

nvm, I see that it was a 2nd round pick. Hopefully they can get more out of him than Tampa did.

Edited October 17, 200916 yr by T R U

I get the trade because Adams is a great talent. But it is a risk as a 2nd rounder is a steep price (and now the Bears don't have a 1st or 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft IIRC) as Adams was traded for a reason. And with that in mind, DE isn't really a need right now, although it obviously could be in 2010 when Adewale leaves. I wonder if another move is coming.

Edited October 17, 200916 yr by whitesoxfan101

I think Wale stays with the franchise tag and Anderson leaves. Adams gets 1.75 seasons under Marinelli + tutoring from Ogunleye, and he's our #1 DE (if there's such thing) in 2011.

As a Bucs fan I like this trade too. I couldnt believe that Adams has 13 career sacks. I wouldve guessed maybe 7.

Wale stays with the franchise tag

 

Why would he deserve anything close to top five money he could arguably be the Bears fourth best DE.

Why would he deserve anything close to top five money he could arguably be the Bears fourth best DE.

Because he's on pace for something like 17-18 sacks this year.

I really don't get this trade for the Bears, adds depth but they really didn't need it. They don't really need a defensive linemen imo. They have Ogunleye, Anderson, Brown already.

 

Gaines has underachieved in Tampa and has continuous ankle problems I've heard. Seems to me the Bears are mortgaging their future getting rid of most of their top draft picks in these upcoming drafts.

 

This draft is especially stocked with defensive linemen that I just don't see how this makes sense.

 

 

I really don't get this trade for the Bears, adds depth but they really didn't need it. They don't really need a defensive linemen imo. They have Ogunleye, Anderson, Brown already.

 

Gaines has underachieved in Tampa and has continuous ankle problems I've heard. Seems to me the Bears are mortgaging their future getting rid of most of their top draft picks in these upcoming drafts.

 

This draft is especially stocked with defensive linemen that I just don't see how this makes sense.

Ogunleye is in the last year of his deal and just about out of his prime (he's 32). Not that I necessarily agree with the trade but that's probably something they had in mind. Angelo loves his DEs, and Dan Bauzin was a total bust.

I thought DE was near the of the list of draft needs this year, and certainly next year....Ogunleye and Anderson in last year of contract and Alex Brown entering that age where DE's start to decline fast....in addition, Brown isn't nearly as much of a pass rushing DE anymore that is needed in the cover 2...

 

I like it because its unlikely the bears would have been able to get a DE with Adams production in the second round, and certainly would not have been able to get one of Adams upside in the second round...basically if the worst Adams will be going forward is a 6 sack a year guy (his average the last two years) than its at least a break even move in my opinion...Adams also has a shot at being a 12 sack a year guy though