witesoxfan Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 04:27 PM) I wonder where Josh will try to resurrect his career next year. The NL somewhere? Minor trade? Charlotte Knights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (shakes @ Aug 12, 2009 -> 11:17 AM) You're not alone.... .....I'm sure Josh still has his. There will be several authentics on clearance at the next Soxfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Aug 12, 2009 -> 11:31 AM) Hitters hit better at home and pitchers seem to pitch better at home...maybe that is what home field advantage means but I don't know. Floyd is a flyball pitcher pitching in a bandbox and has an ERA 3.00 a game lower at home than on the road. I remember reading an article on amphetimine usage in major league baseball. The article basically said usage was rampant and with it now being tested for, one of the effects could be better home records for teams as they will be sleeping in their own beds etc. and the road teams wouldn't be quite as alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 07:23 PM) Floyd is a flyball pitcher pitching in a bandbox and has an ERA 3.00 a game lower at home than on the road. I remember reading an article on amphetimine usage in major league baseball. The article basically said usage was rampant and with it now being tested for, one of the effects could be better home records for teams as they will be sleeping in their own beds etc. and the road teams wouldn't be quite as alert. I don't know what article said it, but from my experience it is true. The travel in the MLB is alot of mental wear and tear. The less you travel the better you will play (when the amphetamines are excluded). It's more about focus and concentration than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Fields isn't coming back to Chicago, except on a bus ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (striker62704 @ Aug 12, 2009 -> 09:40 AM) Guilty. See my predictions in my signature. Jeez,you have 6 guys with over 100 RBIs,lol That offense would be like the greatest offense ever:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 01:30 AM) Jeez,you have 6 guys with over 100 RBIs,lol That offense would be like the greatest offense ever:D Just looked at those. Were you high when you did that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 07:23 PM) Floyd is a flyball pitcher pitching in a bandbox and has an ERA 3.00 a game lower at home than on the road. I remember reading an article on amphetimine usage in major league baseball. The article basically said usage was rampant and with it now being tested for, one of the effects could be better home records for teams as they will be sleeping in their own beds etc. and the road teams wouldn't be quite as alert. LOL, from the guy who continually finds reasons to doubt Floyd, now that he's proven you so very wrong, you come up with this? Travelling for work all the time sucks. It has an effect on people. Could also be what teams he has pitched against, or that maybe he pitched on bad hitting days at the Cell, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) LOL, from the guy who continually finds reasons to doubt Floyd, now that he's proven you so very wrong, you come up with this? Travelling for work all the time sucks. It has an effect on people. Could also be what teams he has pitched against, or that maybe he pitched on bad hitting days at the Cell, who knows. ? All I'm saying is he's a flyball pitcher and check his splits. I offered perhaps one explanation for it. Consdering how everyone frets about a guy like Peavy coming to a "hitter's park", maybe checking White Sox pitchers splits might change an opinion. The fact is Floyd is an excellent pitcher at home, and pretty mediocre on the road. 2.38 vs 5.38. That's a gigantic difference, especially considering USCF's reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) ? All I'm saying is he's a flyball pitcher and check his splits. I offered perhaps one explanation for it. Consdering how everyone frets about a guy like Peavy coming to a "hitter's park", maybe checking White Sox pitchers splits might change an opinion. The fact is Floyd is an excellent pitcher at home, and pretty mediocre on the road. 2.38 vs 5.38. That's a gigantic difference, especially considering USCF's reputation. There could be one other issue...the fact that Floyd had a terrible opening to the season and didn't get in a groove until June. He pitched mostly on the Road during April and May; he pitched 1 game at home in May, 3 on the road, in those 3 games his ERA was 9. Those number of runs given up will skew your season #'s like mad. In June, his ERA was 1.63 at home and 0.61 on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 07:32 PM) There could be one other issue...the fact that Floyd had a terrible opening to the season and didn't get in a groove until June. He pitched mostly on the Road during April and May; he pitched 1 game at home in May, 3 on the road, in those 3 games his ERA was 9. Those number of runs given up will skew your season #'s like mad. In June, his ERA was 1.63 at home and 0.61 on the road. Then his first 2 starts in July on the road he was tatooed. He's given up 5 runs or more 7 times on the road and 1 time at home. 3 runs a game is a huge swing. Whatever it is, I think it does show that pitchers can thrive at USCF. Edited August 21, 2009 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 With Felix Pie playing well, it seems like KW should've pulled the trigger on that deal. But of course we don't know why it didn't go down. Maybe The Orioles were the smart ones and didn't want Fields. I figured after they got Josh Bell, they wouldn't necessarily want Fields anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 08:13 PM) With Felix Pie playing well, it seems like KW should've pulled the trigger on that deal. But of course we don't know why it didn't go down. Maybe The Orioles were the smart ones and didn't want Fields. I figured after they got Josh Bell, they wouldn't necessarily want Fields anymore. Maybe it never existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 08:55 PM) Maybe it never existed. I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Maybe Josh will start getting back on track? But, my guess is he doesn't fit in the Sox plans anymore and will be gone over the off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmuk Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I think the Sox should let Josh go for HIS sake. I'm glad they moved him down because he was not helping the team but he did kind of get the shaft after being very successful two years ago just to be rewarded with a sending down then. He just might be one of those guys that a change of organization is the making of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (farmuk @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 08:22 AM) I think the Sox should let Josh go for HIS sake. I'm glad they moved him down because he was not helping the team but he did kind of get the shaft after being very successful two years ago just to be rewarded with a sending down then. He just might be one of those guys that a change of organization is the making of him. Welcome to the site. I'd say it's very, very likely that Josh gets moved this offseason. Disappointing because of all the potential that we'll be failing to harvest, but really, he's not taking 3b away from Beckham and we're very unlikely to move any out of Getz, Nix, or Ramirez this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 12:11 PM) I'd say it's very, very likely that Josh gets moved this offseason. Disappointing because of all the potential that we'll be failing to harvest, but really, he's not taking 3b away from Beckham and we're very unlikely to move any out of Getz, Nix, or Ramirez this offseason. I think Josh will retire after this season. He almost quit after hitting 23 homers in a short season, why wouldn't he quit after a season like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Depressing seeing this thread title keep coming up Guess I'm about to bump it though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 hard to believe that no one would want a guy hitting .294 with a .368OBP in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 11:39 AM) Depressing seeing this thread title keep coming up Guess I'm about to bump it though.. It's not really depressing now that the thread title is no longer accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 11:57 AM) hard to believe that no one would want a guy hitting .294 with a .368OBP in AAA. If he keeps this up then someone should pick him up over the offseason. He still has the chance to be another Mark Reynolds. The Pirates could be an option as they're probably not far from pulling the plug on Andy LaRoche and even if they don't they could find time for a change-of-scenery project with potential who can play the IF corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Josh has had years worth of chances to shorten up that swing. Unless someone talks him into that, he is pretty much a AAAA player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Sox Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 You have to think the Sox will release Fields in the offseason, or at least make a token trade for a similar AAAA type guy or a non-prospect in the lower levels. The thing that bothers me about Fields isn't so much his inability to hit, but his attitude. Talking about how you almost quit after your first year in the majors and then moaning several times about being benched despite a microscopic average are not signs of a mature team player. I am glad he is hitting better in Charlotte and I do wish him the best...just not with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 with the probability of the sox not spending much this offseason after the peavy and rios acquisitions, the only way id give up on fields this offseason is if i'm absolutely sold on chris getz or jayson nix at 2b.....and i'm not sold on either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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