November 2, 200916 yr QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 04:48 PM) It's the AL Central...EVERY team needs a bump in notoriety. Not going to happen. Ozzie would either have a heart attack or kill Manny.
November 2, 200916 yr Well we do still need a DH.. . .but after the steroid incident i just don't see JR doing such a move.
November 2, 200916 yr This would not be like the Twins at all, but: (1) new ballpark to fill, and (2) need to impress Mauer given his upcoming free agency, and (3) take a shot for a year with Mauer, Morneau, and Ramirez at the center of the lineup.
November 2, 200916 yr QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) Well we do still need a DH.. . .but after the steroid incident i just don't see JR doing such a move. Not to mention that he'd likely have personality clashes with an intense manager like Ozzie. Plus, he'll be 38 in May. You never know when his bat is going to slow down, especially now that he's off the (alleged) juice. Plus, why trade for Manny when you can have Thome (who actually likes playing in Chicago) for a fraction of the cost? Edited November 2, 200916 yr by WCSox
November 2, 200916 yr QUOTE (WCSox @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 04:12 PM) Not to mention that he'd likely have personality clashes with an intense manager like Ozzie. Plus, he'll be 38 in May. You never know when his bat is going to slow down, especially now that he's off the (alleged) juice. Plus, why trade for Manny when you can have Thome (who actually likes playing in Chicago) for a fraction of the cost? agreed. say the dodgers take 5 million off Manny's contract- that would be $15 million the Sox could disperse elswhere like our bullpen and bring in a more economical DH such as Abreu at around $7-8 million.
November 2, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 04:11 PM) Priority #1 this offseason: dump Tyler Flowers. I hear Vazquez might be available...
November 2, 200916 yr Manny's the cheapest "free agent" out there. Rolling the dice on him given where the Sox are makes all the sense in the world. Beckham-Ramirez-Quentin would make a very formidable 2-4.
November 3, 200916 yr I could see it being 3 teams The Twins - new stadium, maybe last year with Mauer, might do whatever it takes to win it this year and try to keep Mauer longterm The Mariners - came into some money recently with Jojihma opting out and could use that on Manny Our Sox - DH/OF
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (chisoxpride2 @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 03:54 PM) I agree. Who in our organization could be familiar with Manny? Yes that's rhetorical haha Didn't the Sox try to trade for Mags for Manny like 6 years ago?
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 04:09 PM) This would not be like the Twins at all, but: (1) new ballpark to fill, and (2) need to impress Mauer given his upcoming free agency, and (3) take a shot for a year with Mauer, Morneau, and Ramirez at the center of the lineup. They kind of popped into my mind to, due to the new ball park, thus I would imagine some higher revenues, and I would have to believe they can't honestly believe they can maintain the same style of play at home in an outdoor ball park
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 06:37 PM) Didn't the Sox try to trade for Mags for Manny like 6 years ago? I believe that was the mutli-team trade that was going to put A-Rod in Boston before he ended up going to the NYY, but I think Nomar was supposed to go to the White Sox. Edited November 3, 200916 yr by SoxFan562004
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (everafan @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 07:34 PM) Has everyone forgotten that Boras is Ramirez' agent? Ramirez is already under contract in 2010 (he has until Nov. 10th to decide whether of not to opt out of the 1 year, $20M remaining on his deal) and would be acquired via trade so unless Manny demands additional compensation to convince him to waive his no trade clause Boras shouldn't enter into the equation.
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (WCSox @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 03:26 PM) That's because a lot of people believe that A-Rod's an image-obsessed, contrived phony. David Ortiz has the type of personality that's almost impossible to dislike, and nobody knows what banned substance he tested positive for. For all we know, he may have just continued to pop greenies or take something sold at GNC. Manny also had a long and very impressive resume of post-season success by the time that he signed with Boston (and continued playing at a high level thereafter). Right or wrong, being a bad-ass in the playoffs can mitigate a number of sins. I dislike Ortiz, mostly because he's overrated.
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 01:08 PM) I could also see it being Detroit. They don't seem to mind lazy malcontents up there. If it is a team in the AL Central, I'd think the chances are from least likely to most likely Royals>Sox>Twins>Indians>Tigers And if there is some misrepresentation in the article, a little misdirection, I could see some team in the east, not NYY or Bos, perhaps looking at the gate possibilities with Manny in their uniform. Edit to add: my best guess is Manny or his agent planted the story, possibly his current team.
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (JPN366 @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 09:31 PM) I dislike Ortiz, mostly because he's overrated. Five straight years being in the top five in mvp voting? He was pretty damn good for that stretch. Ortiz was just as good and scary for those five years as just about anyone around.
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 01:06 PM) Sounds like either us or Cleveland. They're pretty damn familiar with Manny...
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 09:30 AM) If it is a team in the AL Central, I'd think the chances are from least likely to most likely Royals>Sox>Twins>Indians>Tigers And if there is some misrepresentation in the article, a little misdirection, I could see some team in the east, not NYY or Bos, perhaps looking at the gate possibilities with Manny in their uniform. Edit to add: my best guess is Manny or his agent planted the story, possibly his current team. For my money, the Twins are last, and the Royals are a step above. Let me put it this way, who was the last big named player the Twins have brought in?
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) For my money, the Twins are last, and the Royals are a step above. Let me put it this way, who was the last big named player the Twins have brought in? OMG IT'S SHANNON STEWART. DROOOOOLLLLL
November 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) For my money, the Twins are last, and the Royals are a step above. Let me put it this way, who was the last big named player the Twins have brought in? I would say Orlando Cabrera. Maybe Joe Crede(not a big name, but a name). They never worried about big names because they developed their big names
November 4, 200916 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 04:33 PM) I would say Orlando Cabrera. Maybe Joe Crede(not a big name, but a name). They never worried about big names because they developed their big names Cabrera a big name? Not at this stage of his career.
November 4, 200916 yr Delmon Young was the biggest they have brought in recently. Of course, at the time they traded for him, he was making peanuts.
November 4, 200916 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 07:38 PM) Cabrera a big name? Not at this stage of his career. He's still very well known around baseball. He isn't that big slugger name you hear about, but everyone knows him, and he's still a very solid player.
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