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Bryce Harper

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QUOTE (BearSox @ Jan 14, 2010 -> 12:54 PM)
We are all inferior, but how is it ridiculous? So, just because im inferior, my experience as a baseball player doesn't matter. So, if I was Bryce Harper, but decided to bulk up for football, and lost my bat speed... it only matter then?

 

Plain and simple, bulking up in muscle makes your ligaments tighten up. Having your ligaments tightening up = a reduction in bat speed.

 

Its really not that complicated and it doesn't matter how good or bad the ball player is.

 

Just to be factually correct because it is driving me nuts. Your ligaments do not tighten up, your muscles and tendons will, if you don't stretch along with it.

 

Ligaments surround and protect the joints whereas muscles and tendons provide the motion.

 

I know this is not part of the discussion but the misuse of the different tissues needed to be corrected.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 14, 2010 -> 06:49 PM)
Just to be factually correct because it is driving me nuts. Your ligaments do not tighten up, your muscles and tendons will, if you don't stretch along with it.

 

Ligaments surround and protect the joints whereas muscles and tendons provide the motion.

 

I know this is not part of the discussion but the misuse of the different tissues needed to be corrected.

 

lol, some of us are grammar nazis, others are medical term nazis.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 09:52 PM)
Mauer developed and grew. He never "bulked" up. He just developed his body and did the neccessary baseball lifts.

 

When I hear the term "bulk up", I think of adding muscle mass and bulk, which will cause your ligaments to tighten up, therefore causing you bat speed to obviously go down.

When i said bulked up, I meant what you are referring to about Mauer, not McGwire type muscles.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 14, 2010 -> 09:04 PM)
When i said bulked up, I meant what you are referring to about Mauer, not McGwire type muscles.

 

 

I realize that now :gosoxretro:

  • 3 weeks later...

*we're happy for you!*

bryce harper hit a ground ball? pathetic. i was under the impression he could only hit screaming line drives and home runs.

 

color me underwhelmed.

No doubt about it, he has a pretty swing, very little wasted movement. As long as he can handle all the pressure mentally, he will be at least a very solid ball player. But tons of guys haven't been able to handle the mental rigors of baseball.

His swing looked like Ichiro's during that HR

QUOTE (3E8 @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 07:38 PM)
His swing looked like Ichiro's during that HR

He generates some impressive power from his wrists.

Zeus Harper doth smote yon ball with his lightning bolt.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 07:38 PM)
His swing looked like Ichiro's during that HR

It's because he lunges at every pitch. He's got a nice swing, but that's not going to fly in near future.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 10:04 PM)
It's because he lunges at every pitch. He's got a nice swing, but that's not going to fly in near future.

It reminds me a bit of Utley's. And i never thought Utley's swing would cut it in the major leagues, so i've been wrong before.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 10:05 PM)
It reminds me a bit of Utley's. And i never thought Utley's swing would cut it in the major leagues, so i've been wrong before.

The 2 things that bother me about his swing are the lunge and the toe-tap. The thing about the toe-tap is that it's currently helping him, but in the future it'll probably hurt him. Against inferior pitching, it's going to help prevent his hips from flying open (kind of counter-acting the lunge) since he basically shows the bottom of his foot to the pitcher, but when they bust him inside (which people now are probably scared to do), he'll have a much tougher time.

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 08:57 PM)
Zeus Harper doth smote yon ball with his lightning bolt.

 

My friend:

 

"Ze chosen von has homerunned!"

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 09:13 PM)
The 2 things that bother me about his swing are the lunge and the toe-tap. The thing about the toe-tap is that it's currently helping him, but in the future it'll probably hurt him. Against inferior pitching, it's going to help prevent his hips from flying open (kind of counter-acting the lunge) since he basically shows the bottom of his foot to the pitcher, but when they bust him inside (which people now are probably scared to do), he'll have a much tougher time.

 

Well thats what the minor leagues and the minor league hitting coaches are for. Perhaps to tweek his mechanics a bit. His swing doesn't bother me as much. (hell Alexei has that same toe-tap) This guy has been over hyped and it's not really fair for him. (besides me, daa, and a couple others here, noone knew about him from back then) He's an intriguing prospect, but as we all know he can also be one of the biggest bust. I've seen alot of prospects get over hyped over the years (some warranted, some not) but Bryce is probably one of, if not, the most over hyped.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 2, 2010 -> 01:34 AM)
Well thats what the minor leagues and the minor league hitting coaches are for. Perhaps to tweek his mechanics a bit. His swing doesn't bother me as much. (hell Alexei has that same toe-tap) This guy has been over hyped and it's not really fair for him. (besides me, daa, and a couple others here, noone knew about him from back then) He's an intriguing prospect, but as we all know he can also be one of the biggest bust. I've seen alot of prospects get over hyped over the years (some warranted, some not) but Bryce is probably one of, if not, the most over hyped.

Teams have been coming out and saying hes the around the 10th best in the draft in terms of talent, and along with his signability concerns I see him slipping late in the first round if not later.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 11:47 PM)
Teams have been coming out and saying hes the around the 10th best in the draft in terms of talent, and along with his signability concerns I see him slipping late in the first round if not later.

 

If Harper somehow slid to the Sox, who here would take him?

 

I definitely would, since he'd be a lefty power bat at catcher, which for all we know, Flowers could work out, be moved to 1B, or traded.

 

However, I doubt Kenny would, what with Scott Boras and him not being a college player.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Feb 2, 2010 -> 12:47 AM)
Teams have been coming out and saying hes the around the 10th best in the draft in terms of talent, and along with his signability concerns I see him slipping late in the first round if not later.

Unless a college guy or three jumps into the spotlight like Strasburg did last season, Washington or any other top 5 team would be foolish to not draft this kid.

He has a little Frank Thomas in him in that swing. Notice how he picks up his left foot as he swings just like Frank did from the right side with right foot.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 2, 2010 -> 12:58 AM)
If Harper somehow slid to the Sox, who here would take him?

 

I definitely would, since he'd be a lefty power bat at catcher, which for all we know, Flowers could work out, be moved to 1B, or traded.

 

However, I doubt Kenny would, what with Scott Boras and him not being a college player.

 

Well we need a DH...

A toe-tap isn't a bad thing people. Quite a few major league hitters have one and use them as a timing mechanism.

Im going to reserve judgement on him until he is actually is drafted. The kid obviously has an eyepopping skillset

Joe Borchard has light-tower power.

 

When I play in my soft-ball league, I generate a lot of power by throwing my hips at the ball. I'm fishing for "lostfan" to go all BearSox two-sport athlete on me.

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