July 31, 201015 yr Ken_Rosenthal #WhiteSox still working on Dunn. Would be Jackson-plus. Source: "This thing is far from over." Edited July 31, 201015 yr by JoeCoolMan24
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (longshot7 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) MLB Network? You think if I had it, I would be watching ESPN right now?
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) #WhiteSox still working on Dunn. Would be Jackson-plus. Source: "This thing is far from over." where's this from JCM?
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:14 PM) where's this from JCM? Rosenthall, sorry.
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) #WhiteSox still working on Dunn. Would be Jackson-plus. Source: "This thing is far from over." i'm not saying this to imply this deal gets done, but I wouldn't be shocked if Rizzo made this call
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 08:13 PM) #WhiteSox still working on Dunn. Would be Jackson-plus. Source: "This thing is far from over." God I love this time of year.
July 31, 201015 yr olney: Heard this: Already, a whole lot of speculation among rival FO about whether the White Sox will place a waiver claim on Manny in Aug.#trades
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:15 PM) Rosenthall, sorry. no it's cool, fast and furious times!
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) Scott is NOT a rental player. He's still under team control for 2 more years via arbitration. per Cot's contracts: Luke Scott of 1 year/$4.05M (2010) * 1 year/$4.05M (2010) o re-signed by Baltimore 1/19/10 (avoided arbitration)
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (thedoctor @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:15 PM) olney: Heard this: Already, a whole lot of speculation among rival FO about whether the White Sox will place a waiver claim on Manny in Aug.#trades question is would Minny do it if they're still in 2nd to block?
July 31, 201015 yr The thing with waivers is we could be blocked by a lot of different teams and the twins have payroll to block us. I could see a Dunn/Jackson deal and Sox getting Brett Meyers
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (Real @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) per Cot's contracts: He has two more years of arb left.
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 01:12 PM) If they do, it's like a $10+ million 2 month rental. I am not sure about that. I am confused. Would all the deferred money be the responsibility of the White Sox? Or would it be divided pro-rata amongst the teams? Maybe Rosenthal is right...if it is pro rata, it would seem Manny would be owed about $6-7 million, 4-5 million of which would be deferred and $1-2 million paid out this season...
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (Real @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) per Cot's contracts: Yeah, a 1 year contract avoiding arbitration, like any other player with 3-5 years of service. Take a look at his service time, I bet it's under 4 isn't it? That means after this year he'll be up over 4, meaning 2 more years of ARB. Have to get to 6 to be a free agent.
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:14 PM) Not everyone has it. f***ing AT&T U-Verse...
July 31, 201015 yr Would we all rather have Dunn and Jackson for THIS year or Dunn and Viciedo with Torres our 5th starter.
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) I am not sure about that. I am confused. Would all the deferred money be the responsibility of the White Sox? Or would it be divided pro-rata amongst the teams? Maybe Rosenthal is right...if it is pro rata, it would seem Manny would be owed about $6-7 million, 4-5 million of which would be deferred and $1-2 million paid out this season... If the Sox picked up Manny on waivers, I think the Sox assume every liability on that contract from that point forwards. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure I'm not.
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:19 PM) If the Sox picked up Manny on waivers, I think the Sox assume every liability on that contract from that point forwards. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure I'm not. forward yes, but I don't think they wouldn't assume the retroactive deferred money
July 31, 201015 yr off topic, but with this Rangers bankruptcy mess, I think deferred money will be overhauled
July 31, 201015 yr SI_JonHeyman #chisox envisioned manny as thome-like trade, where theyd pay a small portion of contract. dunn remains favorite for chi 4 minutes ago
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) question is would Minny do it if they're still in 2nd to block? Ha would Minny actually do that? Manny is like the exact opposite of the type of player the Twins like. But goodness... Put his bat with Mauer and Morneau's and holy hell. That would suck.
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 01:19 PM) If the Sox picked up Manny on waivers, I think the Sox assume every liability on that contract from that point forwards. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure I'm not. No, they absolutely would. But I don't know if the deferred compensation is attributed or tied to actual performance by Manny or not for the purposes of a trade. Because if it is not, the waiver claim would actually be like assuming $16.5 million, not $10 million. That doesn't seem right.
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 03:20 PM) forward yes, but I don't think they wouldn't assume the retroactive deferred money But that is money in the contract that simply hasn't been paid yet, it doesn't matter when he earned it. The Sox would take over everything on the contract from that point forwards, even if it's deferred from previous time.
July 31, 201015 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 03:24 PM) No, they absolutely would. But I don't know if the deferred compensation is attributed or tied to actual performance by Manny or not for the purposes of a trade. Because if it is not, the waiver claim would actually be like assuming $16.5 million, not $10 million. That doesn't seem right. The money in Manram's contract isn't tied to performance, I'm certain of that. You claim him, that's the last $ the Dodgers pay him and everything else on there is taken by you, unless they pull him back.
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