All of you are nitpicking. The two are very similar players, what matters is what are their health's like right now. The past doesn't matter as much as we know that is similar. If we think both are at 100% for their age without any major hurdles than I'm just fine with Lee. If Lee has issues, than maybe we should give Konerko the money or go another way. LaRoche and Pena both have some issues if you put them in the same lineup as an Adam Dunn (I.e., low average and high strikeout numbers).

I really hope other options don't include D. Lee. I watched him struggle enough on the north side to last me a lifetime.

When exactly? He was awesome for the Cubs. He had a bad first half last year, thats it. He was awesome in the second half.

All of you are nitpicking. The two are very similar players, what matters is what are their health's like right now. The past doesn't matter as much as we know that is similar. If we think both are at 100% for their age without any major hurdles than I'm just fine with Lee. If Lee has issues, than maybe we should give Konerko the money or go another way. LaRoche and Pena both have some issues if you put them in the same lineup as an Adam Dunn (I.e., low average and high strikeout numbers).

They are similar players offensively, DLEE is head and shoulders better defensively.

 

And with DLEE you net 2 draft picks and probably one or two pen arms.

They are similar players offensively, DLEE is head and shoulders better defensively.

 

And with DLEE you net 2 draft picks and probably one or two pen arms.

Possibly 3 draft picks depending on DLees upcoming year.

Possibly 3 draft picks depending on DLees upcoming year.

You better believe DLEE is probably option B for KW, and he is thinking exactly what we are.

You better believe DLEE is probably option B for KW, and he is thinking exactly what we are.

If he is healthy, he is significantly better than Pena/LaRoche. Both of those guys aren't near as complete players as Lee. Plus we all know that Lee (and Paulie) are good leaders and well respected in the city.

“Unfortunately I was very hopeful coming down here,” said Sox general manager Kenny Williams. “I was hoping it wouldn’t really come down to us getting serious about other options, but at this time I have no other choice.”

 

Really disappointing news, Sox were having a great offseason.

 

I really hope other options don't include D. Lee. I watched him struggle enough on the north side to last me a lifetime.

Derrek Lee Joined the Cubs in 2004 and hit .298/.378/.524/.903 with a 129 OPS+ in a Cubs uniform

Paul Konerko over that same time frame hit .281/.366/.520/.886 with a 127 OPS+

DLee will be more available than Konerko next year, and should be at least $5 million less (depending on Konerko's contract). Plus both being great teammates and citizens, I think it's a pretty easy decision.

 

Sorry Konerko, loved what you did here but it's apparent you want to go elsewhere. Thank you for the memories, I wish you luck where ever you go.

 

Now go improve the team KW, and make the right move. Sign DLee

Id rather have Paulie and Id rather pay up. But some times you just cant make a deal happen.

More and more I'm rooting for DLee and some bullpen arms....

They are similar players offensively, DLEE is head and shoulders better defensively.

 

And with DLEE you net 2 draft picks and probably one or two pen arms.

I'm not sure about head-and-shoulders above, I don't think a lot of the ZR/UZR stats are very useful for 1B... but probably a little better, and similar offensively. Both have some health issues in their past, but nothing alarming. Difference is D-Lee comes at probably half the price and nets the Sox draft picks, so... D-Lee is should be.

 

Are the White Sox talking with Derek Lee's agent? Has there been any talk or is just logical speculation on whom Williams may target?

 

As to these comments by Williams about looking at other options, it's public posturing, but it's also probably true. Williams has to explore other options at the same time, but I have to believe that a deal will be struck very soon between the Sox and Konerko - he'll get 3 years at around $13 million per season.

 

What is Lee's expected value on the market? Is he a 1 year deal at $10 million?

Are the White Sox talking with Derek Lee's agent? Has there been any talk or is just logical speculation on whom Williams may target?

 

As to these comments by Williams about looking at other options, it's public posturing, but it's also probably true. Williams has to explore other options at the same time, but I have to believe that a deal will be struck very soon between the Sox and Konerko - he'll get 3 years at around $13 million per season.

 

What is Lee's expected value on the market? Is he a 1 year deal at $10 million?

supposedly KW is talking to other agents tonight and has another meeting scheduled with Kong's agent.

Are the White Sox talking with Derek Lee's agent? Has there been any talk or is just logical speculation on whom Williams may target?

 

As to these comments by Williams about looking at other options, it's public posturing, but it's also probably true. Williams has to explore other options at the same time, but I have to believe that a deal will be struck very soon between the Sox and Konerko - he'll get 3 years at around $13 million per season.

 

What is Lee's expected value on the market? Is he a 1 year deal at $10 million?

 

KW & Hahn are meeting with D Lee tonight, but they have reached out to Landis (PK) for one more chance at a deal. If Konerko doesn't sign with the Sox soon, (in the next 24 hours or sooner) the PK era is ovah.

Kenny can't wait any longer. He wants to make moves Wed/Thurs of this week and he will.

KW & Hahn are meeting with D Lee tonight, but they have reached out to Landis (PK) for one more chance at a deal. If Konerko doesn't sign with the Sox soon, (in the next 24 hours or sooner) the PK era is ovah.

Kenny can't wait any longer. He wants to make moves Wed/Thurs of this week and he will.

Source? Maybe I missed something.

 

 

Source? Maybe I missed something.

I think he is just playing Mr. Big Boy here NorthSide.

Nothing to see - move along now.

 

I think Kenny is working this perfectly. I have complete faith things are going to work out, Paulie or not. That's a pretty marked change in perspective for me from last year, but i'm really confident.

Source? Maybe I missed something.

He just said on CTL he's got a follow up meeting to the one he took earlier today.

He intends to make a deal for a 1B tonight or tomorrow AM. He's through "neglecting"

other agents.

More and more I'm rooting for DLee and some bullpen arms....

I'm kinda rooting for this too. It'd be pretty cool to have him back in Chicago on the South Side. I was the last person in the Chicago media to interview him on his last day as a Cub.

I'm kinda rooting for this too. It'd be pretty cool to have him back in Chicago on the South Side. I was the last person in the Chicago media to interview him on his last day as a Cub.

 

I'm assuming we could sign Lee for half of what Paulie wants and leave money for bullpen help.

 

I would put up with all the DP's Lee would hit in...oh wait.

According to Matt Abbatacola's Facebook (I know...):

 

The Orioles are saying that Konerko will sign with the White Sox...

 

Probably nothing we already dont know but just thought id pass it along.

 

Heyman: konerko's agent is pressing beyond where #chisox had planned. but theres still pretty decent optimism for deal. about 2 hours ago via web

According to Matt Abbatacola's Facebook (I know...):

 

 

 

Probably nothing we already dont know but just thought id pass it along.

 

Reference to a tweet from hours ago.

Nothing new there. In fact we've been hearing that for DAYS..

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Does D. Lee have a cool nickname we can tie into Dunn's? Donkey Kong (if Konerko re-signs) writes itself. Come on creative minds...

Reference to a tweet from hours ago.

Nothing new there. In fact we've been hearing that for DAYS..