Dallas Braden out for the year.

 

I think my real issue with him is how foolish he makes the Sox hitters look, but also, he always came off as kind of a D-Bag to me....

Dallas Braden out for the year.

 

I think my real issue with him is how foolish he makes the Sox hitters look, but also, he always came off as kind of a D-Bag to me....

 

His annoying ass grandmother is what made me not like him.

Mr. perfect game was designated for assignment. Didn't a few posters want to take a flier on him?

Mr. perfect game was designated for assignment. Didn't a few posters want to take a flier on him?

If we sold off everyone and traded D1 and Jackson, sure, I'd see what Coop could do with him.

If we sold off everyone and traded D1 and Jackson, sure, I'd see what Coop could do with him.

 

No green?

I want to see what he can do as a ROOGY, but that's about it. He's been bad this year but has a career OPSa vs RHP of .705.

No green?

None at all.

 

If we got rid of 2 pitchers and tossed in the season, I'd want to see Humber stay in the rotation to find out if he can roll this for a full season, and I'd want Sale in AAA. Galaragga has a solid fastball slider combo but has zero consistency on his release point. He's the kind of guy who might work well in Cooper's system. Maybe it's a 1/20 shot, but answer me this...who else do we have who deserves a shot at starting for the big league team? There's no one from AAA who deserves a spot.

None at all.

 

If we got rid of 2 pitchers and tossed in the season, I'd want to see Humber stay in the rotation to find out if he can roll this for a full season, and I'd want Sale in AAA. Galaragga has a solid fastball slider combo but has zero consistency on his release point. He's the kind of guy who might work well in Cooper's system. Maybe it's a 1/20 shot, but answer me this...who else do we have who deserves a shot at starting for the big league team? There's no one from AAA who deserves a spot.

 

If you threw in the towel, why would Sale be in AAA? You may as well start him in the majors and if he can only go 4 or 5 innings, than so be it.

If you threw in the towel, why would Sale be in AAA? You may as well start him in the majors and if he can only go 4 or 5 innings, than so be it.

Because I don't think he's ready to be a starter yet, based entirely on his performance this season. He's been relegated to mopup duty already because he's been to reguarly wild. I want him to take a step back in who he's facing and work on repeatability and throwing strikes.

If you threw in the towel, why would Sale be in AAA? You may as well start him in the majors and if he can only go 4 or 5 innings, than so be it.

 

I'm with you. If we throw in the towel, Sale should start and Morel/Viciedo/Beckham/JorDanks etc should all be playing everyday.

I'm with you. If we throw in the towel, Sale should start and Morel/Viciedo/Beckham/JorDanks etc should all be playing everyday.

Well if you want Sale to develop as starting pitcher, you probably want him to be in an environment where he can tinker with things a bit. That environment is not the major leagues. Whether the games matter or not, it's not good for someone's psyche to have hitters constantly kicking the s*** out of you while you work on pitches.

None at all.

 

If we got rid of 2 pitchers and tossed in the season, I'd want to see Humber stay in the rotation to find out if he can roll this for a full season, and I'd want Sale in AAA. Galaragga has a solid fastball slider combo but has zero consistency on his release point. He's the kind of guy who might work well in Cooper's system. Maybe it's a 1/20 shot, but answer me this...who else do we have who deserves a shot at starting for the big league team? There's no one from AAA who deserves a spot.

 

Well by that logic throw me or you out there (and don't take that literally). We have the worst collection of SP in the minors. But Galaraga? No thanks.

Well by that logic throw me or you out there (and don't take that literally). We have the worst collection of SP in the minors. But Galaraga? No thanks.

Name another low risk, remote but nonzero chance of reward guy who might be available on the scrapheap to a team over the next few months?

Aroldis Chapman to the DL with "Shoulder inflammation".

Chapman's line before going to the DL:

1.1 innings, 2 hits, 10 earned runs, 12 walks, 92 pitches.

 

That's 92 pitches, to get four outs.

 

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writ...l#ixzz1MjUT2RrL

Well if you want Sale to develop as starting pitcher, you probably want him to be in an environment where he can tinker with things a bit. That environment is not the major leagues. Whether the games matter or not, it's not good for someone's psyche to have hitters constantly kicking the s*** out of you while you work on pitches.

 

If he struggled after the switch, I'd be fine with it. But since he is here already, he probably should stay here if at all possible.

If he struggled after the switch, I'd be fine with it. But since he is here already, he probably should stay here if at all possible.

You don't think he's struggling right now?

Well by that logic throw me or you out there (and don't take that literally). We have the worst collection of SP in the minors. But Galaraga? No thanks.

 

If there is one spot we have been good at, it is fixer upers. If the Sox felt they could fix Armando, I'd have no problem with it. The fact they didn't claim him over the winter when they would have been near the top of the list to do so probably tells me what they think of him.

Did you guys see Galarraga get pissed at those reporters? The probably contributed to the DFA.

Matt Joyce is a beast. Rays up 5-0. This organization is amazing.

Matt Joyce is a beast. Rays up 5-0. This organization is amazing.

 

That's who they got for Edwin, right?

That's who they got for Edwin, right?

 

Yup. So both the Dbacks and Rays got cheap/premium talent for an underachiever that's gone after this year.

Yup. So both the Dbacks and Rays got cheap/premium talent for an underachiever that's gone after this year.

 

Wow, Joyce is beasting after his piss-poor start. ZiPS projects him to have a 20 homer year with a .380 wOBA this season.

Mark Derosa looks like he just tore his wrist while starting his swing. What a fraud!

Wow, Joyce is beasting after his piss-poor start. ZiPS projects him to have a 20 homer year with a .380 wOBA this season.

 

The Rays know what they're doing. And they've got a billion picks coming up in next month's draft.

The Rays know what they're doing. And they've got a billion picks coming up in next month's draft.

 

They are playing a video game in real life. That's like the only way I can describe that. They lost Carl Crawford, Carlos Pena (who cares), and their entire bullpen, a member of their rotation, their starting SS, and it's no big deal. Seriously, WTF? That's the kind of s*** you pull off in OOTP, not with a major league team.

 

The Rays are like quite literally the polar opposite of the White Sox.

 

I'm a Sox homer - not as big as some, but more than most - so I want to clarify that and point out that I don't mean that in any negative connotation whatsoever, because both styles can work. But the Rays don't resign their free agents, they make tons of trades to bring in young players, they use the prospects within their system for their major league team and nothing else, and they build, manage, and coach their team through sabermetric philosophies. The White Sox have done, for the most part, none of those things over the past 10 years. Neither style is necessarily wrong (I think both are wrong, personally, but the Rays are forced to do so because they are not a wealthy franchise, not by choice), it's just attacking the monster with different tactics.