Hybrid of Carlos Lee/Bobby Bonilla with Vladdy's aggressiveness and lack of selectivity.

 

Although his patience has increased appreciably this season in AAA.

And the fact that Dayan is apparently NOT AWFUL IN THE OF.

 

Quite frankly, you could probably use both of them.

 

De Aza

Morel

Quentin

Konerko

Dayan

AJ

Alexei

Beckham

Pierre

 

Pierre would DH. At least he looks to have some semblance of thought, unlike Rios.

I like it.

To be honest I see a lot of Carlos lee in him

 

This.

 

The comparison is apt both offensively and defensively.

Yup, same kinda player

A healthy Carlos Quentin is who I'd compare Viciedo's potential to.

What Wily Mo Pena was supposed to be.

 

Maybe a little less raw power.

I'd take Mark Trumbo at this point.

I'd take Mark Trumbo at this point.

 

Viciedo will hit for a much higher average. He hits too many line drives not to.

As far as prime standpoint Carlos Lee (with more average/little more power) is a great comparison for him. Vlad Guerrero (with less walks/speed) is a good one also. The only player/prospect we got that even sniffs Miguel Cabrera's jock strap in this system is Trayce Thompson and thats if everything in the book goes right for him. Pujols is in a league of his own.

Viciedo will hit for a much higher average. He hits too many line drives not to.

 

I think you're right. I just think (well at least me, anyway), that too much is going to be expected of him from the get go. He'd be an obvious upgrade over bums like Pierre and Dunn. But this offense has too many liabilities for one man to override.

As far as prime standpoint Carlos Lee (with more average/little more power) is a great comparison for him. Vlad Guerrero (with less walks/speed) is a good one also. The only player/prospect we got that even sniffs Miguel Cabrera's jock strap in this system is Trayce Thompson and thats if everything in the book goes right for him. Pujols is in a league of his own.

Well, to be fair, I'm not sure Albert Pujols sniffed Albert Pujols' jockstrap either...

I say Brent Lillibridge, meaning full awesomeness.

Check the slugging pct. and the age.

 

Exactly. That's why De Aza is more help right now. He has a lot more experience and is hitting about as well and other facets of the game are better. I didn't say that De Aza's career would be better.

Well, De Aza with 2HR tonight, Viciedo 0-4, BB, K. Doing his best Adam Dunn impression.

Well, De Aza with 2HR tonight, Viciedo 0-4, BB, K. Doing his best Adam Dunn impression.

If he was impersonating Dunn he would have K'ed 3 times.

A healthy Carlos Quentin is who I'd compare Viciedo's potential to.

Not even close. Quentin has far greater plate discipline.

Don't project the kid so high. He has no glove and he has had a shot or two at the majors already. I hope he works out well,but Pujols, Cabrerra,Gonzales? Just as possible he is Rob Deer, Or ( heaven forbid ) Adam Dunn. Let him progress. He could be A Carlos Lee.

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If we get Carlos Lee out of Viciedo, that is a huge win for the Sox. I hope people realize that. I also hope the expectations haven't gotten to ridiculous for Dayan. Seeing posts like this is just setting up people for being pissed off.

If we get Carlos Lee out of Viciedo, that is a huge win for the Sox. I hope people realize that. I also hope the expectations haven't gotten to ridiculous for Dayan. Seeing posts like this is just setting up people for being pissed off.

I can help with the ridiculous expectations; how about a right handed Dan Pasqua. Pasqua had a good arm , lot of power.

Don't project the kid so high. He has no glove and he has had a shot or two at the majors already. I hope he works out well,but Pujols, Cabrerra,Gonzales? Just as possible he is Rob Deer, Or ( heaven forbid ) Adam Dunn. Let him progress. He could be A Carlos Lee.

 

You should follow our prospects more closely. He has only succeeded in his only shot at the majors.

I think you're right. I just think (well at least me, anyway), that too much is going to be expected of him from the get go. He'd be an obvious upgrade over bums like Pierre and Dunn. But this offense has too many liabilities for one man to override.

 

I fundamentally disagree with this mentality, sorry. Of course, one guy can't plug 4-5 black holes in a lineup, but incrementally, one player CAN make the difference between a few close losses and a few close wins. This division figures to be CLOSE, and those few games may well make the difference.

Exactly. That's why De Aza is more help right now. He has a lot more experience and is hitting about as well and other facets of the game are better. I didn't say that De Aza's career would be better.

 

He's on his fourth year at AAA, he's less likely to succeed against a totally new group of pitchers.

I fundamentally disagree with this mentality, sorry. Of course, one guy can't plug 4-5 black holes in a lineup, but incrementally, one player CAN make the difference between a few close losses and a few close wins. This division figures to be CLOSE, and those few games may well make the difference.

 

This I agree with.

I fundamentally disagree with this mentality, sorry. Of course, one guy can't plug 4-5 black holes in a lineup, but incrementally, one player CAN make the difference between a few close losses and a few close wins. This division figures to be CLOSE, and those few games may well make the difference.

Rongey tried to sell the point that one player wouldn't make a difference. Really Chris? What was his reaction when the Sox signed Adam Dunn? I doubt its only one player he really can't make a difference.

 

People who think one player won't make a difference need to ask themselves if the Sox would be any better off now if Adam Dunn were producing at his normal clip. If the answer is yes or probably, its proof one hitter can make a difference.

Rongey tried to sell the point that one player wouldn't make a difference. Really Chris? What was his reaction when the Sox signed Adam Dunn? I doubt its only one player he really can't make a difference.

 

People who think one player won't make a difference need to ask themselves if the Sox would be any better off now if Adam Dunn were producing at his normal clip. If the answer is yes or probably, its proof one hitter can make a difference.

 

There are more variables than just Dunn. Last year 2/5 of the starting pitchers were the worst in the league for about 2 months.