October 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 03:25 PM) I can't believe people want to make Humber a swing man/reliever/6th starter. The man flat-out earned a spot last season. THe issue is going to be the fact that it's worrisome to trust him for the whole season...just don't know how his arm will hold up for 175 innings with what we saw last year. If he didn't have the "6th inning collapse/Why the Hell doesn't Ozzie have the bullpen up" tired sessions he'd have been in the cy young discussion. By inning, ERA: 1-3: 2.36 4-6: 3.97 7-9: 9.37 Guy needs to be the 4th/5th starter to start the season absolutely...and might well be a real leader...but we still need some depth/backups somewhere.
October 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:30 PM) THe issue is going to be the fact that it's worrisome to trust him for the whole season...just don't know how his arm will hold up for 175 innings with what we saw last year. If he didn't have the "6th inning collapse/Why the Hell doesn't Ozzie have the bullpen up" tired sessions he'd have been in the cy young discussion. By inning, ERA: 1-3: 2.36 4-6: 3.97 7-9: 9.37 Guy needs to be the 4th/5th starter to start the season absolutely...and might well be a real leader...but we still need some depth/backups somewhere. The problem is that people want to make him the backup, and he clearly deserves a shot at being a starter. It's never bad to have plenty of other options, though.
October 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 03:36 PM) The problem is that people want to make him the backup, and he clearly deserves a shot at being a starter. It's never bad to have plenty of other options, though. The right backup going into the season is Zach Stewart. It should be Humber's to lose. Of course, if Danks and Buehrle are both gone, then we might well need both of htem.
October 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) The right backup going into the season is Zach Stewart. It should be Humber's to lose. Of course, if Danks and Buehrle are both gone, then we might well need both of htem. I'm still quite sure that Buehrle will be back. Stewart or Axelrod should be the next option.
October 29, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:30 PM) THe issue is going to be the fact that it's worrisome to trust him for the whole season...just don't know how his arm will hold up for 175 innings with what we saw last year. If he didn't have the "6th inning collapse/Why the Hell doesn't Ozzie have the bullpen up" tired sessions he'd have been in the cy young discussion. By inning, ERA: 1-3: 2.36 4-6: 3.97 7-9: 9.37 Guy needs to be the 4th/5th starter to start the season absolutely...and might well be a real leader...but we still need some depth/backups somewhere. And the only way to build past that is to get the kid his innings. His previous peak was 135 minor league innings.
October 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) And the only way to build past that is to get the kid his innings. His previous peak was 135 minor league innings. Yes. Go look at his monthly splits last season. He started to suck when he was around his former peak, he got plenty of rest/days off, and came back strong in September. It bodes well.
October 29, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:39 PM) Yes. Go look at his monthly splits last season. He started to suck when he was around his former peak, he got plenty of rest/days off, and came back strong in September. It bodes well. It was really like clockwork. That alone makes me feel way better about Humber. There are much bigger questions going into next year.
October 30, 201114 yr What kind of return are you looking for when/if you trade Danks? Say from the... Yankees.
October 30, 201114 yr QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) What kind of return are you looking for when/if you trade Danks? Say from the... Yankees. A moderately talented, AA level player and a moderately talented lower level player.
October 30, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 12:08 PM) A moderately talented, AA level player and a moderately talented lower level player. Really? I'd build a package around Romine. Romine, Phelps/Mitchell(both Triple-A pitchers who are MLB ready or near MLB ready) and JR Murphy/Slade Heathcott.
October 30, 201114 yr QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) Really? I'd build a package around Romine. Romine, Phelps/Mitchell(both Triple-A pitchers who are MLB ready or near MLB ready) and JR Murphy/Slade Heathcott. That's more than they were willing to give up for Cliff Lee.
October 30, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 12:27 PM) That's more than they were willing to give up for Cliff Lee. No.
October 30, 201114 yr QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 02:28 PM) No. How so? Romine is at least valued comparitively with Montero since he's more likely to stick at catcher, and you're adding in extra pitchers, for a guy who had a terrible year last year. The Yankees are just going to sign CJ in that case.
October 30, 201114 yr Maybe this is finally the offseason that Kenny finds a way to get Gerardo Parra! Woo!
October 31, 201114 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 05:06 PM) Maybe this is finally the offseason that Kenny finds a way to get Gerardo Parra! Woo! That is me barfing all over your post
October 31, 201114 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 11:24 PM) That is me barfing all over your post Epic. Although Parra wasn't bad last year.
October 31, 201114 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 12:59 AM) Epic. Although Parra wasn't bad last year. Wasn't bad at all. 24-year-old who was the 3rd best defensive LF in baseball last year, had the 9th highest WAR among LF last year, and probably has one of the strongest OF arms in baseball right now. He is no all-star, but I have always wanted him on the Sox, and I still do. Sox obviously aren't going to make a big splash this offseason, so why the hell not throw Parra in the mix.
October 31, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 01:00 PM) What kind of return are you looking for when/if you trade Danks? Say from the... Yankees. Start with a top prospect and work your way down. If you are talking to the Yankees, immediately get the Red Sox on the phone.
October 31, 201114 yr "ALL IN" is dead!!! There's no more mention of ALL IN on whitesox.com. Finally they've killed it.
October 31, 201114 yr Would not mind taking a flyer on Grady Sizemore. Too bad there's some guy named Rios in the way.
October 31, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (robinventura23 @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) Would not mind taking a flyer on Grady Sizemore. Too bad there's some guy named Rios in the way. He is intriguing to say the least. I wonder what kind of a deal he ends up with?
October 31, 201114 yr Author Wow. mlbbowman Mark Bowman by Buster_ESPN Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa, Joe Torre, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and Frank Thomas will all be HOF eligible in 2014.
October 31, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) Wow. mlbbowman Mark Bowman by Buster_ESPN Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa, Joe Torre, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and Frank Thomas will all be HOF eligible in 2014. How? I'm guessing that the required waiting period is shorter for managers, but still how the hell would La Russa be eligible when both Cox and Torre last managed in 2010? Either way, this does not bode well for Frank's chances of getting inducted on the first ballot (Maddux and Glavine being media darlings and all of those legendary managers).
October 31, 201114 yr MDGonzales Mark Gonzales Sox picked up $3.75 million option on reliever Jason Frasor. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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