Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 03:25 PM) I can't believe people want to make Humber a swing man/reliever/6th starter. The man flat-out earned a spot last season. THe issue is going to be the fact that it's worrisome to trust him for the whole season...just don't know how his arm will hold up for 175 innings with what we saw last year. If he didn't have the "6th inning collapse/Why the Hell doesn't Ozzie have the bullpen up" tired sessions he'd have been in the cy young discussion. By inning, ERA: 1-3: 2.36 4-6: 3.97 7-9: 9.37 Guy needs to be the 4th/5th starter to start the season absolutely...and might well be a real leader...but we still need some depth/backups somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:30 PM) THe issue is going to be the fact that it's worrisome to trust him for the whole season...just don't know how his arm will hold up for 175 innings with what we saw last year. If he didn't have the "6th inning collapse/Why the Hell doesn't Ozzie have the bullpen up" tired sessions he'd have been in the cy young discussion. By inning, ERA: 1-3: 2.36 4-6: 3.97 7-9: 9.37 Guy needs to be the 4th/5th starter to start the season absolutely...and might well be a real leader...but we still need some depth/backups somewhere. The problem is that people want to make him the backup, and he clearly deserves a shot at being a starter. It's never bad to have plenty of other options, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 03:36 PM) The problem is that people want to make him the backup, and he clearly deserves a shot at being a starter. It's never bad to have plenty of other options, though. The right backup going into the season is Zach Stewart. It should be Humber's to lose. Of course, if Danks and Buehrle are both gone, then we might well need both of htem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) The right backup going into the season is Zach Stewart. It should be Humber's to lose. Of course, if Danks and Buehrle are both gone, then we might well need both of htem. I'm still quite sure that Buehrle will be back. Stewart or Axelrod should be the next option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:30 PM) THe issue is going to be the fact that it's worrisome to trust him for the whole season...just don't know how his arm will hold up for 175 innings with what we saw last year. If he didn't have the "6th inning collapse/Why the Hell doesn't Ozzie have the bullpen up" tired sessions he'd have been in the cy young discussion. By inning, ERA: 1-3: 2.36 4-6: 3.97 7-9: 9.37 Guy needs to be the 4th/5th starter to start the season absolutely...and might well be a real leader...but we still need some depth/backups somewhere. And the only way to build past that is to get the kid his innings. His previous peak was 135 minor league innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) And the only way to build past that is to get the kid his innings. His previous peak was 135 minor league innings. Yes. Go look at his monthly splits last season. He started to suck when he was around his former peak, he got plenty of rest/days off, and came back strong in September. It bodes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 29, 2011 -> 02:39 PM) Yes. Go look at his monthly splits last season. He started to suck when he was around his former peak, he got plenty of rest/days off, and came back strong in September. It bodes well. It was really like clockwork. That alone makes me feel way better about Humber. There are much bigger questions going into next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehugeunit Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 What kind of return are you looking for when/if you trade Danks? Say from the... Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) What kind of return are you looking for when/if you trade Danks? Say from the... Yankees. A moderately talented, AA level player and a moderately talented lower level player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehugeunit Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 12:08 PM) A moderately talented, AA level player and a moderately talented lower level player. Really? I'd build a package around Romine. Romine, Phelps/Mitchell(both Triple-A pitchers who are MLB ready or near MLB ready) and JR Murphy/Slade Heathcott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) Really? I'd build a package around Romine. Romine, Phelps/Mitchell(both Triple-A pitchers who are MLB ready or near MLB ready) and JR Murphy/Slade Heathcott. That's more than they were willing to give up for Cliff Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehugeunit Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 12:27 PM) That's more than they were willing to give up for Cliff Lee. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 02:28 PM) No. How so? Romine is at least valued comparitively with Montero since he's more likely to stick at catcher, and you're adding in extra pitchers, for a guy who had a terrible year last year. The Yankees are just going to sign CJ in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Maybe this is finally the offseason that Kenny finds a way to get Gerardo Parra! Woo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 05:06 PM) Maybe this is finally the offseason that Kenny finds a way to get Gerardo Parra! Woo! That is me barfing all over your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 11:24 PM) That is me barfing all over your post Epic. Although Parra wasn't bad last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 12:59 AM) Epic. Although Parra wasn't bad last year. Wasn't bad at all. 24-year-old who was the 3rd best defensive LF in baseball last year, had the 9th highest WAR among LF last year, and probably has one of the strongest OF arms in baseball right now. He is no all-star, but I have always wanted him on the Sox, and I still do. Sox obviously aren't going to make a big splash this offseason, so why the hell not throw Parra in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Oct 30, 2011 -> 01:00 PM) What kind of return are you looking for when/if you trade Danks? Say from the... Yankees. Start with a top prospect and work your way down. If you are talking to the Yankees, immediately get the Red Sox on the phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 "ALL IN" is dead!!! There's no more mention of ALL IN on whitesox.com. Finally they've killed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Would not mind taking a flyer on Grady Sizemore. Too bad there's some guy named Rios in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 QUOTE (robinventura23 @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) Would not mind taking a flyer on Grady Sizemore. Too bad there's some guy named Rios in the way. He is intriguing to say the least. I wonder what kind of a deal he ends up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Wow. mlbbowman Mark Bowman by Buster_ESPN Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa, Joe Torre, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and Frank Thomas will all be HOF eligible in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 White Sox Next For La Russa? Phil Rogers speculates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) Wow. mlbbowman Mark Bowman by Buster_ESPN Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa, Joe Torre, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and Frank Thomas will all be HOF eligible in 2014. How? I'm guessing that the required waiting period is shorter for managers, but still how the hell would La Russa be eligible when both Cox and Torre last managed in 2010? Either way, this does not bode well for Frank's chances of getting inducted on the first ballot (Maddux and Glavine being media darlings and all of those legendary managers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 MDGonzales Mark Gonzales Sox picked up $3.75 million option on reliever Jason Frasor. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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