Anyone know a good bench coach?

 

I asked for carlton Fisk and anyone who joined me was closer in reality than any of you other jokers - er I mean Soxtalk posters. It's the organizational thing. I look forward to success in 2012.

 

KW said one of the requirements was that the manager get along with everyone not no one. Fisk would never be in consideration for manager.

 

Milkman,

 

Honestly I dont know. I dont keep a running tally of who did what in their previous coaching careers. Dave Martinez, Sandy Alomar and Robin Ventura, never managed a MLB team. If you want to say that being a bench coach, 3b coach, whatever is equivalent experience to managing, that is your call.

 

All I know is that (imo) Ventura is going to be a revelation compared to Ozzie. And win lose or draw, its going to be the players, not the manager who ultimately decide the success of a team. This is not the NBA/NFL where a Head Coach can significantly change the dynamic of a team.

The more and more Kenny talks, the more and more I like this move.

Adam Dunn will eat him.

I dont really understand this move, I was caught totally off guard by it too, but I'm not flipping out about it either. MLB managing really isn't rocket science. Stay off the short bus and I'm fine.

And one of my favorite White Sox becomes the new Manager. WOW. What a day.

Robin sounds as surprised as anyone that he was hired. I hope his heart is really into this.

why does he keep saying convicted?

I completely agree with this article:

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_leagu...maining-content

 

Where this decision deserves scorn is that Tampa Bay bench coach Dave Martinez was thought to be the frontrunner for the job. It would have been a natural fit as the ex-Sock had been learning under Joe Maddon, knows plenty about winning without a lot of resources and, perhaps most importantly for Reinsdorf, would come on the cheap.

 

The Pale Hose are instead going with a choice that all but indicates they think they have no shot of winning in the near future. That may actually be true given the team's age and perhaps White Sox brass wanted the anti-Ozzie after eight years of dealing with all the extra baggage that Guillen brought to the table. But if this had been their plan all along, why hadn't Ventura been managing in the team's minor league system prior to this?

 

Simple explanation: Reinsdorf, the man who allowed Jerry Krause to tell Michael Jordan that "organizations win championships," doesn't want to be told how to do anything. It will also likely save him quite a bit of dough as he continues to pay for Adam Dunn, Jake Peavy and Alex Rios. As for Williams, he'll finally get the spotlight that Guillen hogged for so long. There will be no doubt who's running the show next season.

 

But as our own Jeff Passan alluded, this is a Faustian gamble — as in Gerry — in every sense of the term. Fans aren't owed much, but a manager with a little experience leading men old enough to vote is one of them.

"Accountability" There's another crazy idea.

Robin sounds as surprised as anyone that he was hired. I hope his heart is really into this.

He's not coming across too well. Seems like both he and Kenny are stressing that he's going to need a lot of support.

He's not coming across too well. Seems like both he and Kenny are stressing that he's going to need a lot of support.

 

Agreed.

Robin really isn't inspiring me with this presser. He seems just as surprised as all of us...

Frank has not been talked to.

I think Kenny wanted Martinez, but Jerry set a price and Robin was the only candidate to fit in the price range...

When asked if he's talked to Frank Thomas, he said ,"No." Then says he's trusting the people around him to put the best possible pieces together.

Phil Rogers: "Sounds like you're in the deep end Robin"

Robin: "Yup, but I can swim Phil."

Its impossible to know what Martinez would have wanted as Im not sure the Sox even spoke with him.

 

And no one knows if Ventura was cheap or not, previously hes turned down all coaching offers, so youd have to imagine that they offered at least a decent salary to get him to change his mind.

Guess where the Sox open 2012? Robin is coming back for vengeance!!!

Insight into Robin : "I'm not a big rules guy". "I haven't really talked to Kenny about that yet"

Just please spare me the Batman jokes...

 

Good for you Robin...now show us something...

I ADORE Robin Ventura, but i don't get this at all. What the hell was the hurry? Why didn't we give the worthier options (Martinez, Alomar) a solid chance. Why did we hire a guy with no experience?

Insight into Robin : "I'm not a big rules guy". "I haven't really talked to Kenny about that yet"

He doesn't seem like a very inspiring guy so far.....

God, neither Kenny and Robin sound confident at all right now. There's something more going on here... I just got that feeling. This can't be what either party wanted and it shows...