January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 08:08 AM) DeAza is going nowhere even if they sign Cespedes. Yup - I should have clarified that I meant adios DeAza in terms of starting. It's kinda a pain in the ass to only have 1 typing hand.
January 4, 201214 yr This is like Chinese water torture waiting for Cespedes to be declared a free agent. If someone other team signs him, I hope it is soon so the mourning can start.........
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 08:00 PM) This is like Chinese water torture waiting for Cespedes to be declared a free agent. If someone other team signs him, I hope it is soon so the mourning can start......... can someone explain what exactly is the process? is the MLB preventing his FA declaration or something? doesn't he already have an agent?
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (Real @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 02:33 AM) can someone explain what exactly is the process? is the MLB preventing his FA declaration or something? doesn't he already have an agent? I think he has to officially defect from Cuba before he can be declared a free agent or something? I honestly don't know, I was under the assumption he was able to be signed this whole time.
January 4, 201214 yr I believe he needs to gain citizenship in DR first before he can be given a work visa to be signed and play in US.
January 4, 201214 yr The real importance of this, however, is that Goldstein provides a possible timeline for Cespedes' free agency. Mercedes tells Goldstein that Cespedes hopes to have residency in the Dominican Republic established "in the coming days," (article was published on DEC 17TH) but that's not the end of the process. It will then take two or three days for him to be cleared by Major League Baseball, and then perhaps another 10-15 days before the United States Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) distinguishes Cespedes as a Dominican. So you're looking at the 21st of December at the earliest, plus another 10-15 business/working days. Not sure how they count the New Year's holiday...how many days the USOFAC works during that holiday time period officially. Sometime in the next couple of weeks, for sure...maybe around January 8th-10th?
January 4, 201214 yr Author QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 07:49 PM) Yup - I should have clarified that I meant adios DeAza in terms of starting. It's kinda a pain in the ass to only have 1 typing hand. TMI!
January 4, 201214 yr Author QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 01:12 AM) I believe he needs to gain citizenship in DR first before he can be given a work visa to be signed and play in US. This is it. He has to have an official country of residence before he can be granted free agency.
January 4, 201214 yr anybody think he might have already been approached with offers from MLB teams ?
January 4, 201214 yr Author QUOTE (Real @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 12:35 PM) anybody think he might have already been approached with offers from MLB teams ? I'd bet money on it.
January 4, 201214 yr Whoever the expert is on the new CSN HOT STOVE weekly show, has said the SOX will pursuit Cespedes aggressively. FWIW. Edited January 4, 201214 yr by justBLAZE
January 4, 201214 yr Okay, let's say the Sox will aggressively pursue this guy, which seems likely. What's the most you'd like to see the Sox offer?
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 02:57 PM) Okay, let's say the Sox will aggressively pursue this guy, which seems likely. What's the most you'd like to see the Sox offer? Well, I randomly threw out a 5 yr/$48M figure a couple weeks ago. After reading some reports about how he could get nearly $50M, I'm thinking that might not be too far off, but probably more like 6 or 7 years at that cost.
January 4, 201214 yr I think that's 2x as much as I'd be willing to even consider for a guy from the Cuban leagues.
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 03:23 PM) 5/55. KW is all about Cespedes these days. Ugh, so risky
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 04:32 PM) I think that's 2x as much as I'd be willing to even consider for a guy from the Cuban leagues. Not saying I'd do it. He's one of those "Kenny's guy"s he's gonna make a huge play for. I'd probably go 3/24 myself.
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 04:34 PM) Ugh, so risky Gonna a monster market for him.
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 03:40 PM) Gonna a monster market for him. I know, it's just such a scary proposition. Does anyone know how his number compare to Viciedo's?
January 4, 201214 yr Author QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 03:35 PM) Great. Another player that if sucks will be untradeable. Most players who suck are untradeable.
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 04:46 PM) I know, it's just such a scary proposition. Does anyone know how his number compare to Viciedo's? Viciedo was 19 when we signed him, this guy is 25.
January 4, 201214 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) Viciedo was 19 when we signed him, this guy is 25. Right, so if the numbers were similar, you'd expect Cespedes to be garbage because he'd be fully developed. I guess I hope they are way better, of course. I wonder if some metrics/skills tend to translate from Cuba to the MLB more, such as walk rate or K rate or something.
January 4, 201214 yr How easy is it for these guys to defect? It seems like there are about 5 or more famous Cuban baseball players getting out every year. It reminds me of the Canadian Alcatraz on Family Guy.
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