December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 09:41 AM) Circa 2003 Yeah but Detroit overpays everyone, I dont see KC doing that anytime soon.
December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 11:45 AM) Yeah but Detroit overpays everyone, I dont see KC doing that anytime soon. KC only overpays crappy aging OFs
December 14, 201213 yr Illitch is just going spend crazy because he wants a title before he dies. When he does (whether they win one or not) it'll be interesting to see what they do with all the long term contracts. Do they go full on fire sale?
December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (Cali @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 11:51 AM) Illitch is just going spend crazy because he wants a title before he dies. When he does (whether they win one or not) it'll be interesting to see what they do with all the long term contracts. Do they go full on fire sale? I wouldnt be surprised to see Dan Gilbert make a run at the Tigers if they are ever for sale. He owns about 75 percent of the downtown Detroit area.
December 14, 201213 yr Are the Cubs going to move Garza? It doesn't sound like it given that they are rumored to be in stealth mode on a few pitchers.... As for the White Sox, I think they are quiet, for now, because they simply don't have money to spend. Other teams are still mostly adding through free agency. Eventually, the dust will settle, and the White Sox will probably then be in position to make a move or two.
December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 02:20 PM) Are the Cubs going to move Garza? It doesn't sound like it given that they are rumored to be in stealth mode on a few pitchers.... As for the White Sox, I think they are quiet, for now, because they simply don't have money to spend. Other teams are still mostly adding through free agency. Eventually, the dust will settle, and the White Sox will probably then be in position to make a move or two. The Cubs won't move Garza until the deadline because he had a season-ending injury. He needs to show that he's healthy first.
December 14, 201213 yr Author QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 02:23 PM) The Cubs won't move Garza until the deadline because he had a season-ending injury. He needs to show that he's healthy first. It is the same spot the White Sox are in with John Danks. I think he would actually be #1 on their list right now with all of the lefty pitching we have.
December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 03:43 PM) It is the same spot the White Sox are in with John Danks. I think he would actually be #1 on their list right now with all of the lefty pitching we have. Except Garza's a free agent at the end of next year...so they also have to figure out whether they want to keep him.
December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 02:43 PM) It is the same spot the White Sox are in with John Danks. I think he would actually be #1 on their list right now with all of the lefty pitching we have. You mean, in terms of being traded?
December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 04:55 PM) You mean, in terms of being traded? With his salary, if he wasn't hurt and had a normal season last year, the Sox would be shopping him everywhere.
December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 05:59 PM) With his salary, if he wasn't hurt and had a normal season last year, the Sox would be shopping him everywhere. If Sale stays healthy in 2013, and Quintana holds up, I'd be totally willing to see the Sox trade Danks next offseason.
December 14, 201213 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 05:03 PM) If Sale stays healthy in 2013, and Quintana holds up, I'd be totally willing to see the Sox trade Danks next offseason. I'd throw Santiago into that mix. If all 3 of them look like solid options, I'm in. I can live with 3 lefties in the rotation.
December 16, 201213 yr I doubt very much that Danks comes back as good as he was before the surgery. Edited December 16, 201213 yr by Marty34
December 16, 201213 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) I doubt very much that Danks comes back as good as he was before the surgery. Shocking
December 16, 201213 yr I have a feeling Danks will be pretty useless as well. If his fastball drops to 88-90 he's probably screwed, since he's a two-pitch pitcher to begin with. Oh no! Watch out for Danks' 77mph change! Hope I've never been more wrong and he Adrian Petersons the league.
December 16, 201213 yr QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:07 AM) I have a feeling Danks will be pretty useless as well. If his fastball drops to 88-90 he's probably screwed, since he's a two-pitch pitcher to begin with. Oh no! Watch out for Danks' 77mph change! Hope I've never been more wrong and he Adrian Petersons the league.
December 16, 201213 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) Shocking Yes, shoulder surgery for a pitcher is no big deal.
December 16, 201213 yr I'm glad everyone here is qualified to speculate on how a pitcher might recover from this surgery
December 16, 201213 yr QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:39 AM) I'm glad everyone here is qualified to speculate on how a pitcher might recover from this surgery History is not on his side.
December 16, 201213 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) I doubt very much that Danks comes back as good as he was before the surgery. Maybe so. But, I never fully understood just what the surgery was all about. Was it really really bad or to correct an issue that certainly bugged Danks but could have been pitched through? Anyway we all know that shoulder/arm surgeries for pitchers are serious business and you just don't know how they will respond. Where is Mark Buerhle when you need him? Oh yeah Toronto!
December 16, 201213 yr Author QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:32 AM) Yes, shoulder surgery for a pitcher is no big deal. I will go with the actual licensed trainer on this one.
December 16, 201213 yr QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) Maybe so. But, I never fully understood just what the surgery was all about. Was it really really bad or to correct an issue that certainly bugged Danks but could have been pitched through? Anyway we all know that shoulder/arm surgeries for pitchers are serious business and you just don't know how they will respond. Where is Mark Buerhle when you need him? Oh yeah Toronto! I don't think he could have pitched through it. There were questions about Danks not taking the next step in his development before the surgery. I have a hard time believing the surgery will vault him to the next level.
December 16, 201213 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:57 AM) I will go with the actual licensed trainer on this one. I'll go with history.
December 16, 201213 yr Author QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 12:01 PM) I'll go with history. So will I. The history from the experts.
December 16, 201213 yr Arguing with Marty basically is the White Sox offseason thus far. What fun. Gimme more please Edited December 16, 201213 yr by Jose Paniagua
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