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2013-2014 NFL Thread

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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 11:47 AM)
Except the Eagles won't be stupid enough to stop running the ball.

 

This is Chip Kelly we are talking about here. That man loves the passing offense

 

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 11:58 AM)
LeSean McCoy had 8 carries last week.

 

holy s***

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Even pre Chip Kelly the Eagles forgot about McCoy sometimes, not sure how s*** like that happens but it does all the time.

I hate to say it, but I'd feel more comfortable about this coming game if McCown was QB

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 09:58 AM)
LeSean McCoy had 8 carries last week.

They use him a ton in the passing game though. McCoy tends to get his touches.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 12:58 PM)
LeSean McCoy had 8 carries last week.

Didn't he have a pretty rough looking injury early in the season?

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LOL Lions. Look on Schwartz face is the best. That is the "I just got fired" look.

I texted my buddy after the final interception "Awwww, Schwartzie cant throw his headset down like he is dropping the mic and be a smarmy douche while walking to shake hands. So sad"

Aaron Rodgers still not cleared to play according to ESPN. Was he expected to be back this week?

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 01:45 PM)
Aaron Rodgers still not cleared to play according to ESPN. Was he expected to be back this week?

 

There was never an official return date, just a whole bunch of guesstimating. Rodgers says he is ready to go, but just needs to be medically cleared.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 01:45 PM)
Aaron Rodgers still not cleared to play according to ESPN. Was he expected to be back this week?

 

He hasn't been cleared because he has not yet been evaluated this week. That will happen on Wednesday. Signs are definitely pointing towards him playing Sunday though as he was very close to getting clearance for the Cowboys game.

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Aaron Rodgers radio show is on the air. He opens with: "I'd like to thank Justin Tucker for his performance last night."

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http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/16/hog...al-not-foolish/

 

By Adam Hoge-

 

(CBS) — Jay Cutler might be the most coveted pending free agent quarterback on the Bears’ roster, but he’s not the only one.

 

Backup Josh McCown undoubtedly increased his value by posting a 109.8 passer rating in seven games while filling in for Cutler. How much McCown increased his value remains to be seen, but it’s fair to think he’ll command more than the minimum-salary benefit deal he’s currently playing under.

 

A CBSSports.com report Sunday detailed the minimum-salary benefit deal McCown signed with the Bears in the offseason and warned that the team could end up “looking pound foolish” for “being so pennywise with McCown.” The idea behind that thinking is based on the collective bargaining agreement, which restricts a team from extending a minimum-salary benefit player to anything more than a one-year deal at the same level.

 

Essentially, now that McCown is worth more, the Bears can’t extend him until he hits the open market and other teams have a crack at him, too.

 

Based on that information alone, sure, the Bears look foolish for not giving McCown more money and protecting their right to extend him at a higher level before he hits the open market. The CBSSports.com report correctly points out that if the Bears had given McCown just one more dollar, they would have protected that right.

 

But we’re talking about one dollar in the NFL. Don’t you think there’s a good reason why the Bears didn’t give McCown that extra dollar?

 

Based on the cap rules regarding a minimum-benefit salary deal, the cap figure for qualifying veterans is the second year minimum of $555,000. That’s McCown’s cap number, even though his base salary is $840,000. If the Bears had signed McCown to $840,001, his cap number would have been $840,001, so essentially the Bears saved themselves $285,000 in cap space by signing McCown to the deal they did. Overall, the Bears have seven minimum-salary benefit players on their roster, which is saving them nearly $1.5 million in cap space (some of those deals are prorated).

 

The Bears knew all offseason that they were going to be up against the cap this year, so deals like McCown’s gave them the flexibility they needed to be able to sign a guy like defensive tackle Jeremiah Ratliff mid-season when injuries hit. That’s far from foolish. It’s the opposite of foolish.

 

And it should also be pointed out that McCown has signed five separate minimum-benefit salary deals with the Bears in his career and they were the only team to offer him a contract in 2013. Why would the Bears offer more money to a 34-year-old backup when they needed the cap space and that was the market value for McCown?

 

Plus, the Bears can still negotiate with McCown before he hits the open market, they just can’t sign him to a multi-year extension until the new league year. That’s important. They still have exclusive negotiating rights during that time — no other team can have discussions with him until the start of free agency — but they can still make him an offer. McCown would just have to wait until the start of the new league year to sign the dotted line.

 

Granted, that still likely means the quarterback’s value will be driven up and how far it goes up might take the Bears out of the picture, but given McCown’s age and appreciation for his current situation in Chicago, it would be silly to simply assume the backup quarterback won’t be in a Bears uniform next season.

 

Either way, the Bears’ decision to sign him to a minimum-salary benefit deal was certainly not foolish. For a 34-year-old backup with no other offers on the table, it was simply logical.

 

Adam Hoge covers the Bears for CBSChicago.com and is a frequent contributor to 670 The Score. Follow him on Twitter at @AdamHoge.

God, that Cowboys implosion really f***ed s*** up. The Packers almost certainly would have just given Rodgers the last two games off. Now he's going to be back and dominating, and that Week 17 game is going to be a b****.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 09:22 AM)
Jay Cutler, your table is ready, time to make your hay young fella.

 

If the Bears beat the crap teams they should have under McCown the division would be sealed and Jay would be in the playoffs. Alas, this did not happen but thanks to the Lions, the division is there. They have to beat two good teams and then we will all see what the Bears are. This is great thing for this season. We know the offense can compete with anyone. Now we shift focus to the defense who hopefully gets Lance Briggs back. Tillman for the playoffs would have made things interesting if Ratliff continues to improve.

 

The NFC North is bad because of injuries and the Lions. The Lions should have iced this thing a couple of weeks back.

 

If the Giants beat the Lions and the Packers beat the Steelers, Sunday night's game is meaningless.

And if the cowboys win earlier in the day, it's meaningless for Philly. So we know what to root for...

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 02:25 PM)
God, that Cowboys implosion really f***ed s*** up. The Packers almost certainly would have just given Rodgers the last two games off. Now he's going to be back and dominating, and that Week 17 game is going to be a b****.

I doubt you'll see the All Pro version of Rodgers coming off an injury and weeks of inaction. He'll be rusty and trying to get up to real NFL game speed.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 03:18 PM)
I doubt you'll see the All Pro version of Rodgers coming off an injury and weeks of inaction. He'll be rusty and trying to get up to real NFL game speed.

 

Still better than Matt Flynn.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 01:18 PM)
I doubt you'll see the All Pro version of Rodgers coming off an injury and weeks of inaction. He'll be rusty and trying to get up to real NFL game speed.

Jay Cutler looked pretty darn good after coming off an injury and weeks of inaction.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 03:18 PM)
Still better than Matt Flynn.

No doubt but that's not what Steve said...

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 02:33 PM)
And if the cowboys win earlier in the day, it's meaningless for Philly. So we know what to root for...

 

Although if they care about the #3 or #4 seed, then it's not meaningless.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 03:22 PM)
Jay Cutler looked pretty darn good after coming off an injury and weeks of inaction.

So because Jay looked good means EVERY QB will respond the same...

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 03:18 PM)
I doubt you'll see the All Pro version of Rodgers coming off an injury and weeks of inaction. He'll be rusty and trying to get up to real NFL game speed.

He's Aaron Rodgers. He'll dominate.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 03:18 PM)
I doubt you'll see the All Pro version of Rodgers coming off an injury and weeks of inaction. He'll be rusty and trying to get up to real NFL game speed.

 

Seeing Chris Conte & Minor Wrong 20 yards in front of you makes it much easier to shake off the rust.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 03:38 PM)
So because Jay looked good means EVERY QB will respond the same...

 

I think Pittsburgh could end the fun real quick for Green Bay, the Green Bay offensive line is still shaky and Dick Lebaeu could make it interesting. Big Ben doesn't worry about the weather either.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 17, 2013 -> 03:46 PM)
I think Pittsburgh could end the fun real quick for Green Bay, the Green Bay offensive line is still shaky and Dick Lebaeu could make it interesting. Big Ben doesn't worry about the weather either.

I agree, I doubt you'll see All Pro ARod right off the bat and if Pittsburgh gets some hits on him, they might very well be competitive that game. Pittsburgh is playing much better than when the Bears beat them.

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