balfanman Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 12:55 PM) Well his personality didn't seem like an issue is NY... It had something to do with Ozzie, but I'm willing to bet it also had something to do with guys like Konerko/AJ/Dye running the clubhouse in a more quiet, buttoned up way and Swish didn't mesh with that. I'm a firm believer in having some personality in the clubhouse to keep it loose. I don't think Paulie et al agree with that. I was not in the clubhouse (not that anyone here was) so I can't say definitively but I don't think it was the fact that Swisher has "personality" that was the problem. The clubhouse seems to have plenty of "personality " now with guys like Peavy, Beckham, Thornton and I'm sure several others who we haven't even heard about their stories. I don't think that Konerko, Dye, A.J. etc, were against having fun and playing practical jokes on teamates, I think that Swisher must have taken the fun in a direction that no one else cared for. I'm thinking along the lines that maybe Swisher made it a little "nastier" or "dirty' (like the blow up doll) that his teamates didn't care for it. Just a hunch. It's not that it was a locker room full of saints, Lord knows Ozzie wasn't, but some people just rub others the wrong way. New York has so many other distractions that it may have been a little easier for Swisher to "fit in". Who knows, the leadership in the Yankee clubhouse (Jeter?) may like Swishers "personality". Of course the fact that Swisher wasn't performing well and pouted when asked to sit didn't help the situation either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN Also, there are 46 minor league pitchers in early for mini-camp this week. Part of #WhiteSox plan to lengthen out starters before season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 QUOTE (balfanman @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 01:15 PM) I was not in the clubhouse (not that anyone here was) so I can't say definitively but I don't think it was the fact that Swisher has "personality" that was the problem. The clubhouse seems to have plenty of "personality " now with guys like Peavy, Beckham, Thornton and I'm sure several others who we haven't even heard about their stories. I don't think that Konerko, Dye, A.J. etc, were against having fun and playing practical jokes on teamates, I think that Swisher must have taken the fun in a direction that no one else cared for. I'm thinking along the lines that maybe Swisher made it a little "nastier" or "dirty' (like the blow up doll) that his teamates didn't care for it. Just a hunch. It's all loose conjecture anyways, but this seems most logical. I forgot that team had Toby Hall on that team. God those shaving cream pies got old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Personalities are great, and fun for the fans, but I remember that Swisher sometimes made me cringe, as a fan. The blow up doll, the shaving cream pies, Captain Morgan poses with Cabrera, the elaborate High Fives, the looking up in the sky for "Granny," and that whole "Mr. Cool" personna, he always seemed to be portraying, was just a bit too much. I can imagine how it would have been even worse in the clubhouse. We probably never saw half of it. Everyone has their own perception of such things, but for me personally, he was too much, and impressed me as being "Bush League". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Wow! Somebody is selling a super-cool Sox hoodie in the Ticket Exchange forum. Sox Hoodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 09:37 AM) Joe Crede developed into a really solid bat by 2006, but then his back imploded. God bless Joe Crede, best Sox player ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 12:35 PM) This. I think Crede was on track to become one of the premier 3b's in the league. We would have lost him of course, given that Boras was his agent. But he was definitely on track to stardom, imo. 2005 post season (arguably ALCS and WS individually) MVP ... Wonder if he has any plans to coach one day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 05:53 PM) 2005 post season (arguably ALCS and WS individually) MVP ... Wonder if he has any plans to coach one day? Hearing him talk about the back pain he still has, I can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 “@CST_soxvan: Thornton threw 40 BP pitches, all good.” “@scottmerkin: Alexei Ramirez returned home to Florida for family reasons. He's expected back this weekend” “@scottmerkin: Jordan Danks feeling much better compared to even Tuesday. He threw from 45 feet. Thinks he can return by this weekend.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Any word on the 2013 advertising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 06:22 PM) Hearing him talk about the back pain he still has, I can't see it. Yeah, flying across the country 10 times a month probably isn't recommended by his chiropractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 05:53 PM) 2005 post season (arguably ALCS and WS individually) MVP ... Wonder if he has any plans to coach one day? Ehh, I don't dispute Crede as the playoff MVP, but there was virtually no one who didn't contribute during the playoffs that year. It was an incredible team effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 28, 2013 -> 02:44 PM) Ehh, I don't dispute Crede as the playoff MVP, but there was virtually no one who didn't contribute during the playoffs that year. It was an incredible team effort. You win or lose as a team for sure and sometimes one of the team helps a bit more but over a season it's an entire team effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 “@CST_soxvan: Keppinger said his shoulder is getting stronger and that he'll play 3B in 2 days. DH today.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 28, 2013 -> 06:42 PM) “@CST_soxvan: Keppinger said his shoulder is getting stronger and that he'll play 3B in 2 days. DH today.” Obviously I'm jumping to conclusions saying this is lingering, but its really a good time for Gillespie to shine and he's doing pretty good for himself so far... Trade could wind up being a bigger deal for the 2013 Sox than originally thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 28, 2013 -> 11:45 PM) Obviously I'm jumping to conclusions saying this is lingering, but its really a good time for Gillespie to shine and he's doing pretty good for himself so far... Trade could wind up being a bigger deal for the 2013 Sox than originally thought. He's doing this off guys that'll be bagging groceries in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 1, 2013 -> 04:09 AM) He's doing this off guys that'll be bagging groceries in a few weeks. True. His swing is kinda pretty, though. That is my assessment after seeing two ABs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 28, 2013 -> 11:45 PM) Obviously I'm jumping to conclusions saying this is lingering, but its really a good time for Gillespie to shine and he's doing pretty good for himself so far... Trade could wind up being a bigger deal for the 2013 Sox than originally thought. I agree. With Keppinger's ability to play 2B, we should be able to insert Gillespie's left-handed bat into the lineup several times a week. Given the absolute crap we had on our bench last year, I'm pretty excited about that proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 28, 2013 -> 06:44 AM) Ehh, I don't dispute Crede as the playoff MVP, but there was virtually no one who didn't contribute during the playoffs that year. It was an incredible team effort. Damaso Marte set up my favorite playoff moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 1, 2013 -> 10:27 AM) Damaso Marte set up my favorite playoff moment. "'Hocus Pocus' says Hernandez!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Is Dewayne Wise better than Jordan Danks? Does he deserve the spot over Danks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 1, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) Is Dewayne Wise better than Jordan Danks? Does he deserve the spot over Danks? I think he has a better feel for the major league level and working off the bench. He's got enough pop in the bat that he can be a valuable guy to have on the team. Unless Wise shows to be truly incompetent for whatever reason, he's a better option than Danks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 1, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) Is Dewayne Wise better than Jordan Danks? Does he deserve the spot over Danks? I don't think so, but most posters on here would say Wise > Danks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 1, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) Is Dewayne Wise better than Jordan Danks? Does he deserve the spot over Danks? Lower ceiling, higher floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 1, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) Lower ceiling, higher floor. I cannot stand up in this room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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