Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) I don't see Alejandro having much value right now. Rios is the chip without a doubt. Alejandro is on fire with the bats lately, that will help somewhat if he keeps that up. Another good month before the AS break and teams could be looking at him putting up similar WAR this year to what he did last year despite worse defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 08:19 PM) Man, how soon we forget Mark Kotsay and his 85% groundout-to-2B rate. Kotsay was horrible, as well. Sox have had a lot of bad baseball players. I personally feel Dunn is one of my least favorite ever. I agree with whoemever posted that the Sox better get somebody good for Crain and guys they deal, because that's when season tix do not get renewed. When the Sox dump good salaried players for nothing in return. There's no reason to trade Crain for some hack who will never make the big leagues. Ditto Rios. Get something for them, not just Lillibridge/Keppinger types of stiffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 02:19 PM) Man, how soon we forget Mark Kotsay and his 85% groundout-to-2B rate. It will be impressive to see someone knock Jaime Navarro off of my personal most hated list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 We should have a contest--name the player, date of trade, and destination of the first player traded and win some kind of prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 John Danks July 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Matt Thornton Aug 31 Cash considerations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 08:23 PM) John Danks July 10. I still can't believe anyone would pick up that contract given the awful success rate of pitchers returning from shoulder surgery. In my opinion, he'd be one of the hardest players in all of baseball to trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'm going to say Jesse Crain to Saint Louis on July 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Jesse Crain to the Giants on July 11th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Peavy and Rios to the Rangers on July 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Crain to the Orioles July 12th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:50 PM) Peavy and Rios to the Rangers on July 25. One Rangers prospect that I'd be interested in is Rougned Odor. Very much blocked for the forseeable future. Doing rather well for a 19 year old in High-A. Luke Jackson is an interesting pitcher. Rangers also have some toolsy players in Brinson/Williams. Olt is also worth mentioning. Edited June 17, 2013 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 01:58 PM) One Rangers prospect that I'd be interested in is Rougned Odor. Very much blocked for the forseeable future. Doing rather well for a 19 year old in High-A. Luke Jackson is an interesting pitcher. Rangers also have some toolsy players in Brinson/Williams. Olt is also worth mentioning. The Rangers are falling. Oakland is rising. If Nelson Cruz gets suspended Rangers are the 1st team I look at as a trade partner, but I mentioned that long ago. If they see their window to win a World Series closing fast they have to be contacted as soon as the drug suspensions play out. I don't want the Sox dealing with Detroit at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 10:09 PM) The Rangers are falling. Oakland is rising. If Nelson Cruz gets suspended Rangers are the 1st team I look at as a trade partner, but I mentioned that long ago. If they see their window to win a World Series closing fast they have to be contacted as soon as the drug suspensions play out. I don't want the Sox dealing with Detroit at all. Why does it matter if they deal with the Tigers? As long as it's not Sale, I don't think there's anyone we'd be trading to them that would haunt us for a long time. With that said, Tigers have very little in their farm system to trade us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 We can turn this ship around. Don't give up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 06:12 PM) Why does it matter if they deal with the Tigers? As long as it's not Sale, I don't think there's anyone we'd be trading to them that would haunt us for a long time. With that said, Tigers have very little in their farm system to trade us. Sending Rios or Peavy to the Tigers might not be the best idea in the world since they're under contract for a while. Ditto anyone like Reed who would be unexpected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 11:28 PM) Sending Rios or Peavy to the Tigers might not be the best idea in the world since they're under contract for a while. Ditto anyone like Reed who would be unexpected. If they want to give us Castellanos (their only top prospect) for either of those guys, I wouldn't say no. If the Sox go into rebuilding mode, you can't worry about catching the Tigers the next few years (a team that's "all in"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:12 PM) Why does it matter if they deal with the Tigers? As long as it's not Sale, I don't think there's anyone we'd be trading to them that would haunt us for a long time. With that said, Tigers have very little in their farm system to trade us. Because despite all the gloom and doom , I'm hoping the Sox can do enough to compete again sooner rather than later and I'd rather not have them get better at our expense. That's pretty much the standard reason for not dealing within the division. I also think the Rangers will be desperately seeking more help than the Tigers need and a trade with the Rangers could be a blockbuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthunder93 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 03:16 PM) We should have a contest--name the player, date of trade, and destination of the first player traded and win some kind of prize. Jesse Crain to the Cincinnati Reds, July 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 10:40 PM) Because despite all the gloom and doom , I'm hoping the Sox can do enough to compete again sooner rather than later and I'd rather not have them get better at our expense. That's pretty much the standard reason for not dealing within the division. I also think the Rangers will be desperately seeking more help than the Tigers need and a trade with the Rangers could be a blockbuster. Unfortunately, it just seems the talent level difference is too extreme between the two teams. Hopefully you're right though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthunder93 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 05:32 PM) If they want to give us Castellanos (their only top prospect) for either of those guys, I wouldn't say no. If the Sox go into rebuilding mode, you can't worry about catching the Tigers the next few years (a team that's "all in"). Tigers are always all in, haha...their farm system is pretty depleted. Also, they took a ridiculous amount of arms (a fair amount are projected to end up in the bullpen) to start the 2013 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 This is going to be unpopular and will never happen, but.. I would offer Chris Sale to the Rangers for Olt and Profar.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (TRU @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 09:27 PM) This is going to be unpopular and will never happen, but.. I would offer Chris Sale to the Rangers for Olt and Profar.. Yeah I'd make that deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) Home runs are fun, definitely, but I think Dunn is almost an exception to that rule. He's been so lousy that just seeing him stride to the plate is buzzkill. Am I in the minority on this? I just think Dunn is about the worst player in White Sox history and I hate seeing him walk to the plate. If there are any Dunn fans out there, I stand corrected. Adam Dunn has always been one of my favorite players. When the Sox signed him, it was about the most excited I've been about a Sox FA acquisition. He has been a big disappointment. However, he's a great guy and I want him to succeed. I have always recognized that what he has provided is not good enough but there are bigger problems on this team. I would much rather watch Dunn than Juan Pierre, Mark Kotsay, Rob Mackowiak and many of the other guys that have come through town. Jesus Christ DeWayne Wise is on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 10:17 PM) Adam Dunn has always been one of my favorite players. When the Sox signed him, it was about the most excited I've been about a Sox FA acquisition. He has been a big disappointment. However, he's a great guy and I want him to succeed. I have always recognized that what he has provided is not good enough but there are bigger problems on this team. I would much rather watch Dunn than Juan Pierre, Mark Kotsay, Rob Mackowiak and many of the other guys that have come through town. Jesus Christ DeWayne Wise is on the team. Wise does not make $14 million a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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