July 28, 201312 yr Appears that Baltimore's system is very pitching heavy. I'd think Hahn would be pushing for impact position players, so I'm not sure this is a good match unless Baltimore gives up Gausman or Bundy (which they shouldn't).
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:44 PM) Appears that Baltimore's system is very pitching heavy. I'd think Hahn would be pushing for impact position players, so I'm not sure this is a good match unless Baltimore gives up Gausman or Bundy (which they shouldn't). I agree. It's just another team that can drive up the price. This gives Hahn even more leverage now because this might scare the Red Sox to up their offer since a division rival is in on Peavy now.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:44 PM) Appears that Baltimore's system is very pitching heavy. I'd think Hahn would be pushing for impact position players, so I'm not sure this is a good match unless Baltimore gives up Gausman or Bundy (which they shouldn't). What does everyone think Bundy's value is after the surgery?
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:47 PM) What does everyone think Bundy's value is after the surgery? Because Tommy John surgery has a relatively good success rate to other arm injuries, I would still think sky high.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:44 PM) Appears that Baltimore's system is very pitching heavy. I'd think Hahn would be pushing for impact position players, so I'm not sure this is a good match unless Baltimore gives up Gausman or Bundy (which they shouldn't). I still bet that they focus on pitching with maybe one position player.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:50 PM) I still bet that they focus on pitching with maybe one position player. I agree, but I think the premium prospect would be positional and not pitching. This is just me guessing, anyways.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:51 PM) I agree, but I think the premium prospect would be positional and not pitching. This is just me guessing, anyways. I hope you're right.
July 28, 201312 yr Well, Peter Gammons did say that we're targeting pitching....as mind boggling as that is
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:53 PM) Well, Peter Gammons did say that we're targeting pitching....as mind boggling as that is I don't know but either way it is going to drive up the price between the O's and Red Sox.
July 28, 201312 yr Everyone tells their media that they don't have the money and/or willingness to give up talent for the top guys on the market....but suddenly they always find those things if they want the guy
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:53 PM) Well, Peter Gammons did say that we're targeting pitching....as mind boggling as that is The only way that makes sense is if the Sox plan on flipping Quintana or Santiago in the offseason for positional prospects. I just don't buy it.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) The only way that makes sense is if the Sox plan on flipping Quintana or Santiago in the offseason for positional prospects. I just don't buy it. Maybe they've just resigned to the fact that we can't scout/develop position players "f*** it, we just won't allow ANY runs!"
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:38 PM) He was 20 in AA last year. It's pretty impressive that he's holding his own. Started out in the minor leagues at 17 though. 3 years to get to AA doesn't seem that impressive.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:58 PM) Started out in the minor leagues at 17 though. 3 years to get to AA doesn't seem that impressive. Your actual age does matter though. The benefit of being young is it gives you more time to adjust before your clock has ticked out
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:58 PM) Started out in the minor leagues at 17 though. 3 years to get to AA doesn't seem that impressive. He was probably the youngest player at each level. Most twenty year olds are in short season or Low-A ball. It is absolutely still impressive.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 07:44 PM) Appears that Baltimore's system is very pitching heavy. I'd think Hahn would be pushing for impact position players, so I'm not sure this is a good match unless Baltimore gives up Gausman or Bundy (which they shouldn't). We may see a pitcher or 2 received in trades. They can always be flipped for other pieces .
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:53 PM) Well, Peter Gammons did say that we're targeting pitching....as mind boggling as that is I don't think that's crazy at all. They need value regardless of pitcher/hitter.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 10:04 PM) I don't think that's crazy at all. They need value regardless of pitcher/hitter. That's definitely true. It certainly seems odd that we are trying for pitching over hitting when all things are equal though (if Gammons is to be believed...and god knows if anyone is to be believed at this point)
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) Maybe they've just resigned to the fact that we can't scout/develop position players "f*** it, we just won't allow ANY runs!" That's the Giants gameplan and they have won 2 of the 3 World Series. Unfortunately, the Sox play in a hitters park, in the AL, with Miggy Cabrera in the same division.
July 28, 201312 yr "We want pitching" "We want high impact major league ready position players" "We want Buddhist nuns" It's called drumming up interest. The more the merrier, good job thus far Mr. Hanh.
July 28, 201312 yr I have no issues with the Sox trying to get pitching. When you have a below average farm system, any above average prospect you can get helps.
July 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) The only way that makes sense is if the Sox plan on flipping Quintana or Santiago in the offseason for positional prospects. I just don't buy it. I still think it's because they know that it takes 6-7 starters for a WS run. If they trade Peavy there really isn't much depth.
July 28, 201312 yr DBacks get spanked by the Padres. Skaggs lit up for 7 earned. Panic mode for them yet?
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