July 29, 201312 yr ... that Wednesday's going to come and go without a trade. Hahn is asleep at the wheel.
July 29, 201312 yr QUOTE (WKamm @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 02:13 PM) ... that Wednesday's going to come and go without a trade. Hahn is asleep at the wheel. Yes, especially considering he just made a very complicated trade like 3 minutes ago.
July 29, 201312 yr QUOTE (WKamm @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:13 PM) ... that Wednesday's going to come and go without a trade. Hahn is asleep at the wheel. Excellent timing, really. Bravo.
July 29, 201312 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) Yes, especially considering he just made a very complicated trade like 3 minutes ago.
July 29, 201312 yr QUOTE (WKamm @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 03:13 PM) ... that Wednesday's going to come and go without a trade. Hahn is asleep at the wheel. You can return to complain about the actual trade results when the return is made known in the off-season. Although surely you'd rather have kept him and gotten nothing at all back in return. At least Hahn and Friedman BOTH used their creativity and imagination/s to get this done, something has to be said for that.
July 29, 201312 yr I say we are all happy come Wednesday, I see Jake, Lindstrom, Rios, Rameriez, and maybe Dunn all gone. This is all part of the game, even more so with a new GM like Hahn. These GMs are trying to push him around and test RH, they are using their leaks to test him further. Hahn is standing his ground, he is used to going toe to toe with agents negotiating multi year and multi million dollar deals. You gotta give the kid a chance before we worry or judge him. We have two days which is a lifetime in deadline time. Have no fear Rick Hahn is here. PS: Frank was on Sports Talk Live and said he expects 4-5 players to be dealt and even mentioned there may be a trade no one is expecting or talking about. Specifically mentioned one of the two young leftys, Hector and Josè. Edited July 29, 201312 yr by Frank_Thomas35
July 29, 201312 yr I am starting to think it is a possibility that no major moves are made. Maybe Lindstrom gets moved, maybe a surprise or two. But I wouldn't be shocked at this point if Peavy, Rios, Ramirez, Dunn, De Aza etc. are in a SOX uni on August 1. With that said, I wouldn't be upset. We don't want Hahn to back down and take a mediocre package for his major chips, just because. Worst case scenario, Peavy is sportin' a SOX jersey next spring. Oh well. This organization needs bats -- and Hahn needs to assert himself as the GM of this team. Getting swindled wouldn't do him any favors. I am willing to see how this offseason plays out if no major moves are made. I highly doubt the SOX go into 2014 without some fresh face of the major league caliber. Edited July 29, 201312 yr by ChiSox59
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 06:26 PM) Caulfield, where have you been? On a safari.
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:06 PM) I say we are all happy come Wednesday, I see Jake, Lindstrom, Rios, Rameriez, and maybe Dunn all gone. This is all part of the game, even more so with a new GM like Hahn. These GMs are trying to push him around and test RH, they are using their leaks to test him further. Hahn is standing his ground, he is used to going toe to toe with agents negotiating multi year and multi million dollar deals. You gotta give the kid a chance before we worry or judge him. We have two days which is a lifetime in deadline time. Have no fear Rick Hahn is here. PS: Frank was on Sports Talk Live and said he expects 4-5 players to be dealt and even mentioned there may be a trade no one is expecting or talking about. Specifically mentioned one of the two young leftys, Hector and Josè. Man, in one day the future of the franchise will be decided if Frank is right. As much as I hate our position players, if we acquire lousy players in return, we will suck year after year. As much as Peavy is a yearly injury risk, trading him AND one of the young lefties does in theory weaken our starting pitching a bit. Future rotation of: Sale, Danks, Floyd, one remaining lefty and the minor leaguer everybody is always talking about. I guess that's STILL a good rotation if everybody is healthy. I actually could see us dealing one of the two lefties. I guess trading Rios, Dunn, Lexi, one lefty starter, Peavy, DeAza, Flowers and Beckham would be acceptable. It'd be quite the housecleaning in one day, though.
July 30, 201312 yr Isn't the Sox saying they're good to "hold onto" Peavy similar to the Cubs talking about extending Garza before he was dealt? Just trying to up the ante? Edited July 30, 201312 yr by whitesox901
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 10:49 PM) Isn't the Sox saying they're good to "hold onto" Peavy similar to the Cubs talking about extending Garza before he was dealt? Just trying to up the ante? Yeah I would say that's a good comparison.
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 10:42 PM) Man, in one day the future of the franchise will be decided if Frank is right. As much as I hate our position players, if we acquire lousy players in return, we will suck year after year. As much as Peavy is a yearly injury risk, trading him AND one of the young lefties does in theory weaken our starting pitching a bit. Future rotation of: Sale, Danks, Floyd, one remaining lefty and the minor leaguer everybody is always talking about. I guess that's STILL a good rotation if everybody is healthy. I actually could see us dealing one of the two lefties. I guess trading Rios, Dunn, Lexi, one lefty starter, Peavy, DeAza, Flowers and Beckham would be acceptable. It'd be quite the housecleaning in one day, though. Floyd is a goner after this year.
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:49 PM) Isn't the Sox saying they're good to "hold onto" Peavy similar to the Cubs talking about extending Garza before he was dealt? Just trying to up the ante? That's all we can hope for. Hahn better take whatever the best offer is on Wednesday for Peavy and Rios and Alexei. 0 reason to hold on to them until the offseason. It's not like any of them are having bad years and their stock is down.
July 30, 201312 yr Author If Keppinger, Dunn, Ramirez, and Flowers are still here after the deadline, it will be a failure on the Sox part.
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (WKamm @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:11 AM) If Keppinger, Dunn, Ramirez, and Flowers are still here after the deadline, it will be a failure on the Sox part. LOL, maybe in return for a bag of baseballs and assuming 95% of their contracts we could dump Flowers, Dunn or Kepp. Who in the world is going to want Flowers? Keppinger maybe has a tiny bit of value as a utility guy but it seems he hasn't drawn much interest with that robust .543 OPS (surprise surprise).
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 04:58 AM) Floyd is a goner after this year. Where is Floyd going? I thought he had a multi year deal.
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:10 AM) Where is Floyd going? I thought he had a multi year deal. Floyd is a free agent after this year. He gone.
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:10 AM) Where is Floyd going? I thought he had a multi year deal. He might not even pitch in 2014 anyway.
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (WKamm @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:13 PM) ... that Wednesday's going to come and go without a trade. Hahn is asleep at the wheel. Why are some people pretending it's some new untested approach to wait for the deadline to get the best offers coming in
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 07:24 AM) Why are some people pretending it's some new untested approach to wait for the deadline to get the best offers coming in True, but I do think a Peavy decision will prior to his start. Guys like Rios & Ramirez will probably be last second deals if they get moved.
July 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) True, but I do think a Peavy decision will prior to his start. Guys like Rios & Ramirez will probably be last second deals if they get moved. Sounds like Peavy was pulled from his start.
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