January 27, 201412 yr The Sox have A TON of routes they can go when it comes to batting order. Ventura can reunite Eaton and Elmore... he can insert De Aza... so I'm wondering, what do you want the lineup to be?
January 27, 201412 yr If the season started today.. C Whatever 1B Abreu DH Viciedo 2B Beckham 3B Davidson SS Alexei LF DeAza CF Eaton RF Avisail 1st bench option Gillaspie CF Eaton LF DeAza RF Garcia 1B Abreu DH Viciedo 2B Beckham SS Alexei 3B Davidson C Whatever If Nieto makes it & can make enough contact I wouldn't mind seeing Nieto/Gillaspie (when he plays) work in the #2 slot. Main reason being is that I don't see any of our future core pieces that are currently in the lineup as being prototypical #2 hitters, and to increase trade value I'd like Beckham, DeAza, and Alexei hitting in spots where they could look to drive in runners.
January 27, 201412 yr As things stand, best 2015 lineup: CF Eaton 2B Semien RF Garcia 1B Abreu DH Viciedo 3B Davidson C Nieto SS Leury LF Johnson (really pushing it here) Not a lot of power there though. And if Beckham FINALLY comes though (how long have we been saying this?) then things change considerably. And man would Castro look GREAT in there somewhere.
January 27, 201412 yr QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jan 27, 2014 -> 01:32 AM) If the season started today.. C Whatever 1B Abreu DH Viciedo 2B Beckham 3B Davidson SS Alexei LF DeAza CF Eaton RF Avisail 1st bench option Gillaspie CF Eaton LF DeAza RF Garcia 1B Abreu DH Viciedo 2B Beckham SS Alexei 3B Davidson C Whatever If Nieto makes it & can make enough contact I wouldn't mind seeing Nieto/Gillaspie (when he plays) work in the #2 slot. Main reason being is that I don't see any of our future core pieces that are currently in the lineup as being prototypical #2 hitters, and to increase trade value I'd like Beckham, DeAza, and Alexei hitting in spots where they could look to drive in runners. That lineup might lose 100 games
January 27, 201412 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 06:37 PM) That lineup might lose 100 games LOL Welcome to "The Process"
January 27, 201412 yr As the team sits now. 1- Eaton CF 2- Ramirez SS 3- A.Garcia RF 4- Dunn DH 5- Abreu 1B 6- Tank LF 7- Gillespie/ Kepp platoon 3B 8- Flowers C 9- Beckham 2B The bench is Paulie, Keppinger, Nieto and ADA assuming we have a 4 man bench. This leaves Davidson, Phegley and Leury at AAA waiting for a callup. Hopefully Beckham, Gillespie and Keppinger hit well enough to be traded at the deadline to open up 3rd for Davidson and 2nd for one of Sanchez, Leury or Semien. Edited January 27, 201412 yr by StRoostifer
January 27, 201412 yr CF - Eaton SS - Alexei DH - Dunn 1B - ADA RF - Avi LF - Tank 3B - Whoever is there 2B - Beckham C - Whoever is there.
January 27, 201412 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 07:27 PM) No Eaton-Elmore dynamic duo reunited? I'll be shocked if Elmore is on the roster. He has Conor, Keppginger, and Leury blocking him.
January 27, 201412 yr I know we don't have that many choices, but I just do t think its ideal for Avi to have him starting the season in the 3 hole. That's a lot of pressure on a very young kid. Ideally, you'd like to have him in the 5 hole. Unfortunately, we just don't have many other options. We could put Abreu in the 3-hole, but he's also going to need time to adjust to the league. I still think by mid season that we're going to have a strong 3-4-5 in Abreu-Dunn-Avi
January 27, 201412 yr I think the season starts out something like this. De Aza gets traded to the reds for something like OF Jesse Winker and LHP Amir Garrett; a solid B / B+ prospect and a lottery pick for two years of De Aza whom should produce 4.5-5 WAR over the next two years while not costing a draft pick and more importantly draft pool money and possibly netting them a pick when he files for free agency. DH - Dunn C - Flowers 1B - Abreu 2B - Beckham SS - Ramirez 3B - Gillaspie LF - Viciedo CF - Eaton RF - Garcia C - Nieto UT - Keppinger OF - Danks 1B - Konerko Davidson, Semien, Phegley and Leury all wind up at AAA till injury or some moves are made at the deadline. After the deadline DH - Viciedo C - Phegley 1B - Abreu 2B - Semien SS - Sanchez 3B - Davidson LF - Eaton CF - Thompson (predicting a break out this year!) RF - Garcia C - Nieto UT - Garcia UT - Gillaspie OF - Danks Konerko either breaks down or is performing well in a platoon, a playoff team offers him an opportunity on their bench ala Thome with the dodgers.
January 27, 201412 yr QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 08:24 PM) I know we don't have that many choices, but I just do t think its ideal for Avi to have him starting the season in the 3 hole. That's a lot of pressure on a very young kid. Ideally, you'd like to have him in the 5 hole. Unfortunately, we just don't have many other options. We could put Abreu in the 3-hole, but he's also going to need time to adjust to the league. I still think by mid season that we're going to have a strong 3-4-5 in Abreu-Dunn-Avi On a competitive team I would agree but as of right now the Sox aren't expected to be competitive so there's really no pressure on Avi. If he struggles in the 3 hole then slide him down in the order. I just like his ability to hit to all fields and his potential for a higher BA than what we can expect from Dunn and I really don't know what to expect from Abreu.
January 27, 201412 yr After the trade deadline... 1- Eaton CF 2- C.Sanchez SS 3- Avi RF 4- Abreu 1B 5- Dunn DH 6- Tank LF 7- Davidson 3B 8- Nieto C 9- Semien 2B Bench of Paulie, L. Garcia, Flowers and Jordan Danks after Gillespie, Beckham, ADA and Keppinger have been traded. Yeah I know this is California dreamin!
January 27, 201412 yr I'm thinking this year it'll be: Eaton Alexei Abreu Dunn/Konerko Garcia Viciedo Davidson/Gillespie Phegley/Flowers Beckham
January 27, 201412 yr CF Eaton 2B Beckham SS Ramirez DH Dunn RF Garcia 1B Abreu LF De Aza 3B Davidson C Flowers Edited January 27, 201412 yr by woods of ypres
January 27, 201412 yr CF Eaton RF A Garcia DH Dunn/Konerko 1B Abreu LF Viciedo SS Ramirez 3B Davidson 2B Beckham C Phegley That lineup sucks, buts that the best I can do w what we've got. That's a bottom 5 offense unless 6+ guys exceed expectations by a lot. We need to address offense, as we don't have anything too exciting coming up the pipeline either.
January 27, 201412 yr CF Adam Eaton SS Alexei Ramirez 1B Jose Abreu C Jason Castro RF Avasail Garcia DH Adam Dunn/Paul Konerko LF Dayan Viciedo 3B Matt Davidson 2B Gordon Beckham
January 27, 201412 yr 1- Eaton CF 2- Ramirez SS 3- A.Garcia RF 4- Dunn DH 5- Abreu 1B 6- Tank LF 7- Davidson 3B 8- Phegley C 9- Beckham 2B Ramirez hits a lot better with runners on, Avi gets a little protection from Dunn, Dunn gets protected by Abreu, and if he lives up to the hype Abreu will get his own.
January 27, 201412 yr Anyone not putting Dunn in the lineup is absolutely insane. The ONLY hope we have of dumping him at the deadline for a prospect or two is if he is playing everyday and knocking out 25 HR by the deadline. My opening day lineup would be.... 1) Eaton (L) 2) Alexei 3) Garcia 4) Abreu 5) Dunn (L) 6) Viciedo 7) Davidson 8) Nieto (S) 9) Beckham
January 27, 201412 yr L Eaton R Ramirez L Dunn R Abreu L De Aza/R Viciedo R Garcia L Gillaspie/R Keppinger R Catcher R Beckham I've been obsessed with the idea of alternating handedness lately. In the age of super specialized bullpens, it seems like the way to go.
January 27, 201412 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 27, 2014 -> 01:32 AM) L Eaton R Ramirez L Dunn R Abreu L De Aza/R Viciedo R Garcia L Gillaspie/R Keppinger R Catcher R Beckham I've been obsessed with the idea of alternating handedness lately. In the age of super specialized bullpens, it seems like the way to go. I only agree with handedness if's something you do after you've picked your best 9 players. Like, for instance, I wouldn't bench Viciedo in favor of De Aza simply because De Aza if lefthanded. I give Viciedo all the at-bats he can get to improve at his age. Similar reason to why I put Garcia and Abreu at 3 and 4 because they will get more ABs there. I'm operating under the idea that 2014 is a punt season, and I just want improvement out of players more than I want wins on the field. Not saying whose strategy is better, just elaborating on my choices.
January 27, 201412 yr I think Robin might do something different with having Paulie as a bench player. I think we'll line up as follows. CF Eaton LF De Aza RF Avi Garcia 1B Abreu DH Dunn 3B Viciedo SS Ramirez C Flowers 2B Beckham Bench C Nieto IF Konerko IF Keppinger OF Danks Playing Tank at 3rd would give another LF back up. I see Gillaspie, Davidson, Leury Garcia, Phegley and Semien all starting in AAA barring trades.
January 27, 201412 yr QUOTE (glangon @ Jan 27, 2014 -> 03:00 AM) I think Robin might do something different with having Paulie as a bench player. I think we'll line up as follows. CF Eaton LF De Aza RF Avi Garcia 1B Abreu DH Dunn 3B Viciedo SS Ramirez C Flowers 2B Beckham Bench C Nieto IF Konerko IF Keppinger OF Danks Playing Tank at 3rd would give another LF back up. I see Gillaspie, Davidson, Leury Garcia, Phegley and Semien all starting in AAA barring trades. I think everyone INCLUDING Paulie expects/hopes Paulie is going to a bench player. I'm pretty sure he said the only way this season would work was if he was in a platoon or bench role.
January 27, 201412 yr QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 27, 2014 -> 10:02 AM) I think everyone INCLUDING Paulie expects/hopes Paulie is going to a bench player. I'm pretty sure he said the only way this season would work was if he was in a platoon or bench role. I know he's a bench player. What I was saying was that with Robin being forced to have Paulie as a bench player, I think that Viciedo will be moved to 3rd base to allow an extra OF option.
January 27, 201412 yr I really really hope they use Keppinger as a utility infielder this year and not the everyday 3b. We need to let Davidson start getting regular at bats. With that said here would be my starting lineup for opening day: 1) Eaton CF 2) Beckham 2b 3) A. Garcia RF 4) Dunn/Konerko DH 5) Abreu 1B 6) Ramirez SS 7) Viciedo LF 8) Davidson 3b 9) Phegley C (hoping Hahn upgrades this spot soon!)
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