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Sox acquire Jeff Samardzija and Michael Ynoa

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:21 AM)
I think Anderson has more value than that. Especially since Samardjia isn't even signed past 2015. It worked out trading highly thought of prospects for Freddy Garcia. Even though 2 of 3 were busts, it didn't work out trading for Nick Swisher.

 

The way pitching is really starting to dominate, I think the Sox are better off keeping Anderson, signing a back end guy, and if they still want Samardjia, sign him next winter.

I agree, if there is no contract extension however if the sox get an extension, proven top end starters are more valuable.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:22 AM)
I think you far over valuing Anderson. I'm not saying he can't be a star but he is a years from even being brought to chicago.

 

You don't trade a consensus top 100 prospect for a one year rental starting pitcher unless he signs an extension. Even with that, I would be pissed I think.

 

Give me Samardzija and Upton, different story. Gotta give to get.

Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake

Really hope Anderson isn't going anywhere, would think him and Rodon are untouchable unless the package is huge.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:27 PM)
Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake

 

Agreed.

 

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:27 AM)
Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake

 

He's pretty good....

 

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:27 AM)
Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake

If you sign him to an extension, you also will probably be sporting a 35 or 36 year old Shark on your roster in the future. I wouldn't want to pay market prices for him either.

Just noticed the A's top prospect is a AA SS. Kinda odd they'd be looking at adding another, esp. after adding Barreto.

 

Anderson is mystery. We have young talent under control but not a lot of high ceiling mystery. So Anderson is one of the few examples of that in the org

Edited by Jose Paniagua

Please don't make this happen. We're just starting to build the farm system back to a respectable level...

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:27 AM)
Samardzija isn't even that good, for Christ's sake

Why do you say that?

 

Over 200 IP

202k/43bb

2.99 era

1.07 whip

 

 

Seems to me he would be great sandwiched in between sale and Q. And he is only 29.

If the Sox are trading Anderson, they better be receiving Upton back too with an extension in place. Anderson is the only hitting prospect showing signs of development.

QUOTE (Sockin @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:17 AM)
Source confirms Sox are in talks to acquire Samardjiza. http://bit.ly/1rHpn5o

 

Sounds like a couple of apologies are due here.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:31 AM)
Just noticed the A's top prospect is a AA SS. Kinda odd they'd be looking at adding another, esp. after adding Barreto.

Maybe Barreto would be part of the trade, if this is even something. Or maybe even Lawrie. Lawrie seems like the type of player the White Sox would have been coveting.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:33 PM)
Sounds like a couple of apologies are due here.

 

is there anyone here who thinks talks havent happened? We have no real updates til we have news

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:25 AM)
You don't trade a consensus top 100 prospect for a one year rental starting pitcher unless he signs an extension. Even with that, I would be pissed I think.

 

Give me Samardzija and Upton, different story. Gotta give to get.

No I don't. But I admit I'm not as high on prospects as many others are as I think they bust as much has they become stars. Again this is only if the sox get an extension. I would not do it for the rental.

 

Sale, Q, JS. Is a top of the line rotation

 

Edit:wow that was bad typing from my tablet as I am at my daughter's dance e classes.

Edited by ptatc

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:33 AM)
Maybe Barreto would be part of the trade, if this is even something. Or maybe even Lawrie. Lawrie seems like the type of player the White Sox would have been coveting.

This sounds familiar.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:35 AM)
No I don't. Butiadmit I'm not ashighon prospects as many others are as I think theybustas mu has they become stars. Again this is only if the sox get an extension. I would not do it for the rental.

 

Sale, Q, JS. Is a top of the line rotation

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Samardzija WAR by year:

 

0.5

-0.4

-0.5

0.6

2.8

2.6

4.1

 

This would be like trading for Gavin Floyd in 2010/11, except Floyd was better

If we're getting Shark & Upton, then we're giving up a f***ton more than just Anderson. And why would we empty half of our system to acquire two rentals?

 

At least Shark is from the Chicagoland area and grew up a Sox fan. There's some chance he'd agree to extension here, the same can't be said for Upton.

 

For better or worse, I think this Shark deal is really happening. But if more pieces are included it will be a guy like Reddick, not Upton.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:31 AM)
Just noticed the A's top prospect is a AA SS. Kinda odd they'd be looking at adding another, esp. after adding Barreto.

 

Stocking your minors with quality SS prospects is like burying gold for later

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:36 PM)
wat

 

#spacebarfail

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:37 AM)
Samardzija WAR by year:

 

0.5

-0.4

-0.5

0.6

2.8

2.6

4.1

 

This would be like trading for Gavin Floyd in 2010/11, except Floyd was better

 

Those first 4 seasons is when he was a reliever. Last 3 when a starter full time.

 

You are way off here.

Edited by SoxPride18

I wonder if KW's remarks are foreshadowing the Sox making some major moves, some of which might irk the fans similar to the Carlos Lee trade.

 

“I don’t want to hear any more talk about rebuilding and certainly don’t want to take it on the chin any longer,” Williams said. “We’ve got to start making progress with more wins, and we’re going to have to do what we’ve got to do to get there.”
QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:37 AM)
Samardzija WAR by year:

 

0.5

-0.4

-0.5

0.6

2.8

2.6

4.1

 

This would be like trading for Gavin Floyd in 2010/11, except Floyd was better

 

I know you love WAR, but start valuing 33 starts and 215 innings too. It helps the bullpen, and you know, the team.

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