November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:49 AM) His K-rate went from Buerhle to Kershaw. I doubt that continues. If you go from throwing fastball, cutter, changeup to two-seamer, cutter, slider, curveball, you can see drastic changes like that.
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:47 AM) Let's hope we get 2012/2014 Zach Duke and not the Zach Duke who was a dumpster fire in 2013....Fairly meh on the signing till I see how he performs. You really don't want the 2012 version. He only gave you 13 innings. If it is for multiple years at a decent rate, this is the pitching signing equavalent to Jeff Keppinger. .
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:51 AM) If you go from throwing fastball, cutter, changeup to two-seamer, cutter, slider, curveball, you can see drastic changes like that. At age 31? I doubt it lasts. Do you have some examples? If it is a one year contract with some kind of option, that's fine. But these 3 year deal suggestions would be crazy to give him. Edited November 18, 201411 yr by Dick Allen
November 18, 201411 yr DA might be right and Duke might be awful but I'd rather take a chance on someone like him as opposed to giving Andrew Miller 10 mill a year for 4 years. Once again, I'm assuming this deal isn't anything outrageous but I'm happy with it. Edited November 18, 201411 yr by Rowand44
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:54 AM) DA might be right and Duke might be awful but I'd rather take a chance on someone like him as opposed to giving Andrew Miller 10 mill a year for 4 years. Once again, I'm assuming this deal isn't anything outrageous but I'm happy with it. QFT
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:53 AM) I would guess 3 years/$13.5 million. I don't think they would go a guaranteed third year but I could be wrong. I would imagine there would be at least a third year club/vesting option with a small buyout attached. The numbers that popped into my head initially were 2/$8 million with a $4.5 million option or $.5 buyout. That's strictly a guess though. He just doesn't have long enough history as a quality reliever to guarantee three years in my mind.
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:56 AM) He fills a need nothing more. What else would you expect him to do? Fly the team plane?
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 06:46 PM) Dan Hayes Zach Duke allowed only eight of 41 inherited runners to score (80 percent) last season. #WhiteSox allowed 32 percent. Needed to fix that. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/534764157372215297 I'm confused by the way he wrote this. So did Zach Duke "allow" 20% of inherited runners to score, and the white sox 32%? Or did Duke "hold" 80% of runners and White Sox only 32%? Confusing switching of terminology there.
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) What else would you expect him to do? Fly the team plane? That's why I would sign him.
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 05:58 PM) I'm confused by the way he wrote this. So did Zach Duke "allow" 20% of inherited runners to score, and the white sox 32%? Or did Duke "hold" 80% of runners and White Sox only 32%? Confusing switching of terminology there. yeah i saw that too. messed up wording by Dan Hayes. I think he meant that Duke allowed 20% to score, which the Sox allowed 68%.
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) I'm confused by the way he wrote this. So did Zach Duke "allow" 20% of inherited runners to score, and the white sox 32%? Or did Duke "hold" 80% of runners and White Sox only 32%? Confusing switching of terminology there. I have to assume he meant Duke had an 80% success rate while the White Sox allowed 32% to score. So yea the comparison should really be 20% to 32%.
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 12:04 PM) We can confirm that he has at least flown in a plane before. Source?
November 18, 201411 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) I'm confused by the way he wrote this. So did Zach Duke "allow" 20% of inherited runners to score, and the white sox 32%? Or did Duke "hold" 80% of runners and White Sox only 32%? Confusing switching of terminology there. Yeah it was. Without looking it up, assuming he meant what it would read if the "(80 percent)" was omitted: Duke allowed 20 percent to score, Sox allowed 32 percent to score. The Sox bullpen holding only 32% of inherited runners seems like it would be an apocalyptic number. Doubt this is a three-year contract as some have guessed. I'm guessing 2/$9. Fine with the signing and even if his K-rate isn't real he has the ground ball chops that we've trended towards. Better this than Miller.
November 18, 201411 yr J Stankevitz Zach Duke's fastball averaged 88.1 mph. Last year w/Milwaukee: 89.7 mph. Strikeout rate more than doubled. #WhiteSox https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status/534768820473565184
November 18, 201411 yr Duke may not be the best available reliever but I take him over Snoddy and Surkamp any day. Surkamp would appear to be slowly coming around but I have no faith in Snoddy. I'm happy with the Duke signing.
November 18, 201411 yr Also, never underestimate what a good baseball name is worth. Who would you rather have on the mound - Scott Downs or ZACH DUKE?
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