I didn't realize Carlos Sanchez was suddenly Dustin Pedroia.

Where on Earth did I say that? "Solid MLB-caliber starter at 2b" = "Dustin Pedroia or better"?

If you can't support a team with 3 or 4 former PED users then you should probably pick a different sport to watch all together....and make sure it's not football either.

but at the time, did anyone know of it??

 

we can not look at it after the fact.

What!?

 

So you're not ashamed that a PED user was a part of our championship squad?

Where on Earth did I say that? "Solid MLB-caliber starter at 2b" = "Dustin Pedroia or better"?

 

There's not a world in which Carlos Sanchez should ever be considered " solid"

There's not a world in which Carlos Sanchez should ever be considered " solid"

Let's wait until he actually plays a full season shall we? Unless the 104 career PA was enough for you to make that judgment. This isn't Dayan Viciedo we're talking about here. This is assuming Micah isn't ready of course.

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What!?

 

So you're not ashamed that a PED user was a part of our championship squad?

 

compared to what????

 

there is a lot more horrible thing out there. using PED pales to a

rapist, a child abuser.....

 

get the ridiculousness of what you are stating.

 

wake up and change the subject, this accomplish nothing.

Let's wait until he actually plays a full season shall we? Unless the 104 career PA was enough for you to make that judgment. This isn't Dayan Viciedo we're talking about here. This is assuming Micah isn't ready of course.

 

.671 OPS over three seasons at AAA, albeit young for the level.

 

There's not a world in which Carlos Sanchez should ever be considered " solid"

 

and you could see in the future. uh.

compared to what????

 

there is a lot more horrible thing out there. using PED pales to a

rapist, a child abuser.....

 

get the ridiculousness of what you are stating.

 

wake up and change the subject, this accomplish nothing.

 

Lol I don't think you understand. I couldn't care less that Melky did roids. And the premise of this thread is, I agree, ridiculous.

 

and you could see in the future. uh.

Well. More that his underlying metrics don't look all that great. Statistics is hard.

Let's wait until he actually plays a full season shall we? Unless the 104 career PA was enough for you to make that judgment. This isn't Dayan Viciedo we're talking about here. This is assuming Micah isn't ready of course.

 

For the record, I'm all about Micah if he's healthy.

Well. More that his underlying metrics don't look all that great. Statistics is hard.

 

 

i don't know, i can't think right now, its is monday and i am slam.

 

but i think you just flip and flop in this thread...

 

maybe it is me. sorry. i can't think now.

i don't know, i can't think right now, its is monday and i am slam.

 

but i think you just flip and flop in this thread...

 

maybe it is me. sorry. i can't think now.

 

You missed my sarcasm. No worries.

.671 OPS over three seasons at AAA, albeit young for the level.

Danny Santana has a career .708 OPS in the minors then got called up and put up a .824 OPS in 430 PA. Whether that is the outliner or the norm, there have been a ton of players who have over achieved in the bigs. Sanchez might not be average, but I'm willing to find out first instead of writing him off. He tends to settle down after he reaches a level the following year. I'm one of his biggest fans here (love Micah too though, bigger upside) so I believe he will succeed. He'll probably be one of the better fastball hitters on this team already.

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There's not a world in which Carlos Sanchez should ever be considered " solid"

 

In 2014 baseball, his offense isn't as offensive as it was a few years back.

Danny Santana has a career .708 OPS in the minors then got called up and put up a .824 OPS in 430 PA. Whether that is the outliner or the norm, there have been a ton of players who have over achieved in the bigs. Sanchez might not be average, but I'm willing to find out first instead of writing him off. He tends to settle down after he reaches a level the following year. I'm one of his biggest fans here (love Micah too though, bigger upside) so I believe he will succeed. He'll probably be one of the better fastball hitters on this team already.

 

I'm not writing him off, but to say that all of our holes have been filled with "solid MLB-caliber starters" like Balta did just seems like a stretch to me, at 2B and C specifically, with 3B another potential question mark.

 

Or the Olympics

Or college sports

Or high schools sports

 

Just put the Little League World Series on a continuous loop year round.

 

All teams that play in the Little League World Series are cheaters, I am not joking.

In 2014 baseball, his offense isn't as offensive as it was a few years back.

Well yeah, there's a reason Juan Lagares is the best CF in the game, but Sanchez is no Lagares.

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Well yeah, there's a reason Juan Lagares is the best CF in the game.

Did Mike Trout really suck that I'm not aware of?

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In 2014 baseball, his offense isn't as offensive as it was a few years back.

 

If I am reading this table right, the MLB average OPS by 2B in 2014 was .686. If the guy hits his minor league OPS, and plays the good defense we saw, he is at very least, a league average player.

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable...php?cid=1681191

If you can't support a team with 3 or 4 former PED users then you should probably pick a different sport to watch all together....and make sure it's not football either.

14% of MLB players supposedly have ADD and have clearance to "treat" that with a banned substance. It's 3 times the average percentage of 27 year old adults with the condition.

 

You are right, if you can't stand cheaters, major league baseball is probably something you should avoid.

If I am reading this table right, the MLB average OPS by 2B in 2014 was .686. If the guy hits his minor league OPS, and plays the good defense we saw, he is at very least, a league average player.

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable...php?cid=1681191

 

If he hits .686 I'll be totally happy with that. Last two years at AAA he was sub-.600. Last year showed encouraging progress. I would LOVE for it to continue, but I just think it's premature to call him "solid".

 

He hasn't shown that yet.

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14% of MLB players supposedly have ADD and have clearance to "treat" that with a banned substance. It's 3 times the average percentage of 27 year old adults with the condition.

Hmmm... didn't we just sign a guy that is part of that 14% of players to be our DH?

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If he hits .686 I'll be totally happy with that. Last two years at AAA he was sub-.600. Last year showed encouraging progress. I would LOVE for it to continue, but I just think it's premature to call him "solid".

 

He hasn't shown that yet.

 

Last two years at AAA? You are really going to take a 39 plate appearance sample size and equate that to a year?

 

He was bad in 2013 and much better in 2014. I'm guessing his overall talent level is closer to 2014 based on reports from the AAA team, including Sanchez getting out of shape and somewhat complacent. He worked a lot harder prior to the season last year (and seemingly during the season) and it paid off.

 

I think he can be a decent regular but I think the Sox are going to go with Micah Johnson when he proves he's ready.

Last two years at AAA? You are really going to take a 39 plate appearance sample size and equate that to a year?

 

He was bad in 2013 and much better in 2014. I'm guessing his overall talent level is closer to 2014 based on reports from the AAA team, including Sanchez getting out of shape and somewhat complacent. He worked a lot harder prior to the season last year (and seemingly during the season) and it paid off.

 

I think he can be a decent regular but I think the Sox are going to go with Micah Johnson when he proves he's ready.

 

I'm on a phone in JFK in the midst of the worst travel nightmare I've ever experienced. Good call. 39 PA does not a year make.