Because Andy Wilkins is a better hitter than Jordan Danks.

 

Yeah, but:

 

Why would you keep Danks and DFA Wilkins?

 

Because Danks is an excellent defensive outfielder and the Sox starting outfield at present are bad, injury prone, and bad at defense. And there's zero room for Wilkins on a team with Abreu and LaRoche.

Good only 1 Danks to go............I do not see Jordan Danks every being a good MLB player.

Yeah,

 

Why would you keep Danks and DFA Wilkins?

 

Because Danks is an excellent defensive outfielder and the Sox starting outfield at present are bad, injury prone, and bad at defense. And there's zero room for Wilkins on a team with Abreu and LaRoche.

I frankly I don't have to make these decisions. I remember when we drafted Jordan thought was he could play defense at the major league level. His bat never attained that level of competence.

Because Andy Wilkins is a better hitter than Jordan Danks.

He hasn't shown it yet. But maybe they think he can.

I can see DFA'ing Danks before Wilkins. Need that bat insurance in Charlotte behind LaRoche and Abreu more than you need a 6th OF.

 

However, I am really surprised that Leury Garcia wasn't DFA'd. He, to me, was the obvious choice.

 

When Andy Wilkins is a 1B and Jordan Danks is a CF, you need a better reason than that.

 

No, I don't think so. If Abreu gets hurt, the season's pretty much over anyways, but if LaRoche gets hurt, Wilkins at least provides the talent to not kill the Sox offensively at 1B. Danks doesn't do that and hasn't played 1B anyways.

 

Yeah, but:

 

Why would you keep Danks and DFA Wilkins?

 

Because Danks is an excellent defensive outfielder and the Sox starting outfield at present are bad, injury prone, and bad at defense. And there's zero room for Wilkins on a team with Abreu and LaRoche.

 

Not that excellent defensive outfielders are a dime a dozen, but traditional thought seems to lean towards being able to find good to elite defenders much easier than finding average to good hitters.

 

He hasn't shown it yet. But maybe they think he can.

 

I think, given his minor league track record and the most reason season we have on record, Wilkins is better bet to do something in the majors offensively than is Jordan Danks. It's very likely that Wilkins never sniffs the majors as a hitter or, if he does, it's in the form of September call ups or as a pinch hitter, but right now, I think he'd be projected to perform better offensively than Jordan Danks.

 

For the record, here are the ZiPS projections for their batting lines. These mean little other than plugging numbers into a computer to generate likely splits:

 

Wilkins: .242/.294/.437, .318 wOBA

Danks: .232/.308/.375, .303 wOBA

 

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Also worth considering is that the Sox have indicated to Danks that they'd welcome him back with open arms and they know what he is, but perhaps they're doing this as a favor to him. Allow him the opportunity to see if another team in the majors wants him or let him pursue more playing time overseas or something along those lines.

Can't L Garcia play CF?

Well there you go...if there's a need for that level of play in CF, just put L. in there.

I would have thought Raul Fernandez would be the obvious choice.

Thank you, Dick

You ' re welcome. Thanks, Dick

I would have thought Raul Fernandez would be the obvious choice.

 

They just picked him up last year. I think they are really, really intrigued by his arm and want to give him more time than that.

So now I legit wonder who the backup OF is

So now I legit wonder who the backup OF is

 

Shuck, or Danks ends up getting outrighted to Charlotte and makes the team as a non-roster invitee.

 

Or something else. Ichiro?

Shuck, or Danks ends up getting outrighted to Charlotte and makes the team as a non-roster invitee.

 

Or something else. Ichiro?

Either of those would require another 40 man spot though right? So more shuffling?

I an certain Viciedo will be gone but it would be great to have someone on the bench who could hit one into the seats.

 

Either of those would require another 40 man spot though right? So more shuffling?

 

Shuck is on the 40-man.

Danks is awful, who cares, lol

As of now if Carlos Sanchez is starting 2B, I think bench is: Bonifacio, Shuck, Saladino, and Kottaras/Brantly. Obviously they could add a different OF or INF for cheap though still.

Danks is awful, who cares, lol

 

Everyone's awful. Players are awful in lots different ways. Players are awful while at the same time being excellent. Like Danks. If you only consider defense and baserunning, Jose Abreu is a giant sack of s***. Why people are discussing it is out of an interest in surmising what the intended makeup of the bench is.

Soxtalk has an Ozzie like obsession with the replacement level Jordan Danks. They don't need a fourth OF that can play CF because of Melky. Melky starting 10 or 15 games in CF to spell Eaton isn't the end of the world. Of course, they could always bring in a veteran type in the spring to compete for the role if they feel it's important.

 

This has nothing to do with Viciedo is about clearing space on the 40 man for more moves, if anything.

 

Wilkins at least provides the talent to not kill the Sox offensively at 1B.

 

You know, it's not quite the dead ball era 2.0 yet. A 28 year old non prospect that has never seen a breaking ball he wouldn't swing at and can't catch up to MLB fastballs -- will absolutely kill the Sox at 1B.

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Soxtalk has an Ozzie like obsession with the replacement level Jordan Danks. They don't need a fourth OF that can play CF because of Melky. Melky starting 10 or 15 games in CF to spell Eaton isn't the end of the world. Of course, they could always bring in a veteran type in the spring to compete for the role if they feel it's important.

 

Good lord, Melky should not/ will not be going anywhere near CF. The outfield defense projects to be very subpar at the corners with Cabrera and Garcia. It is a clear deficiency on the team and 'excellent defensive outfielder' is a wise use of one of the bench spots in my opinion (and I suspect others'). If not Danks, I hope they get someone who is a plus defender, like Danks.

 

 

No, I don't think so. If Abreu gets hurt, the season's pretty much over anyways, but if LaRoche gets hurt, Wilkins at least provides the talent to not kill the Sox offensively at 1B. Danks doesn't do that and hasn't played 1B anyways.

 

 

 

Not that excellent defensive outfielders are a dime a dozen, but traditional thought seems to lean towards being able to find good to elite defenders much easier than finding average to good hitters.

 

 

 

I think, given his minor league track record and the most reason season we have on record, Wilkins is better bet to do something in the majors offensively than is Jordan Danks. It's very likely that Wilkins never sniffs the majors as a hitter or, if he does, it's in the form of September call ups or as a pinch hitter, but right now, I think he'd be projected to perform better offensively than Jordan Danks.

 

For the record, here are the ZiPS projections for their batting lines. These mean little other than plugging numbers into a computer to generate likely splits:

 

Wilkins: .242/.294/.437, .318 wOBA

Danks: .232/.308/.375, .303 wOBA

 

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Also worth considering is that the Sox have indicated to Danks that they'd welcome him back with open arms and they know what he is, but perhaps they're doing this as a favor to him. Allow him the opportunity to see if another team in the majors wants him or let him pursue more playing time overseas or something along those lines.

Anyway. Twice in one two-sentence paragraph is too much. I thought they would have taught you this in Admin School.

Anyway. Twice in one two-sentence paragraph is too much. I thought they would have taught you this in Admin School.

Does 3 sentences constitute a proper paragraph?

The oldsox/witesoxfan beef has got to be one my favorites on Soxtalk, although it seems to be a bit one-sided.

If we're worried about Jordan Danks we are worried about the wrong things. Dude has proven he can't hit at the major league level. If we're looking for defensive specialist outfielders, they're out there, and they aren't gonna cost much.

I think, given his minor league track record and the most reason season we have on record, Wilkins is better bet to do something in the majors offensively than is Jordan Danks. It's very likely that Wilkins never sniffs the majors as a hitter or, if he does, it's in the form of September call ups or as a pinch hitter, but right now, I think he'd be projected to perform better offensively than Jordan Danks.

 

For the record, here are the ZiPS projections for their batting lines. These mean little other than plugging numbers into a computer to generate likely splits:

 

Wilkins: .242/.294/.437, .318 wOBA

Danks: .232/.308/.375, .303 wOBA

 

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Also worth considering is that the Sox have indicated to Danks that they'd welcome him back with open arms and they know what he is, but perhaps they're doing this as a favor to him. Allow him the opportunity to see if another team in the majors wants him or let him pursue more playing time overseas or something along those lines.

From what I saw, I don't think Wilkins has a prayer in the MLB. The projections may be right but the swing and miss capacity of wilkins was astounding. Not that Danks is going to be any good at hitting but the comment that Wilkins is obviously alot better is not correct.