shipps Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) We still need a talent infusion. Right and I am confident that Pace and Fox know that and know its going to take some time. I think Fox is going to slowly and methodically build this team back to contention. Not in a few months from now but in two years from now, yes. And thats actually a pretty short turnaround for where this team is/was right after Trestman/Emery left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) At the very least, a good sign was that Sutton and Ferguson did not look like wasted talent in the 3-4 five tech. there were a few flashes. I still dont think McLellin is the guy, he just cant shed blocks, his tackles are usually after the damage is done. And Vereen, oh my god Vereen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 02:50 PM) there were a few flashes. I still dont think McLellin is the guy, he just cant shed blocks, his tackles are usually after the damage is done. And Vereen, oh my god Vereen I said a couple years ago. Unfortunately McClellin is not an NFL player. No matter which way you look at it. Vereen apparently isnt one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 11:47 AM) At this point, no way to do that other than patience. At least you're 1/3 of the way through the guaranteed part of the contract given to the QB. Cutler's deal has nothing to do with things though (I think he is now out of top 10 in terms of QB pay). Bears just need to be good in the draft and smart in FA (plus hopefully develop some existing guys). In football, the turnaround can be quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 02:50 PM) there were a few flashes. I still dont think McLellin is the guy, he just cant shed blocks, his tackles are usually after the damage is done. And Vereen, oh my god Vereen Know who else couldn't shed blocks????? Brian Urlacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 03:12 PM) Know who else couldn't shed blocks????? Brian Urlacher. Yea, but every other one of Brians skills were so much better than McLellin. Be real SCS, Urlacher is one of the top players in Bears history, and was one of the best linebackers in the league for pretty much his entire career in the NFL. The only comparison McLellin has is he is white, blonde, and plays football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 11:30 AM) I just want to say something...I am so happy we have respectable coaches. Definitely. They're the reason I think the Bears could get to 8-8 at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) Definitely. They're the reason I think the Bears could get to 8-8 at least. I still don't think so, but I'd rather go in with low expectations and get surprised (vs. what happened last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) Yea, but every other one of Brians skills were so much better than McLellin. Be real SCS, Urlacher is one of the top players in Bears history, and was one of the best linebackers in the league for pretty much his entire career in the NFL. The only comparison McLellin has is he is white, blonde, and plays football C'mon now, you know I'm not trying to say SMC is gonna be Urlacher. I'm just saying not being able to get off blocks isn't something that will automatically set you up for failure at ILB. If your front 3 and 2 OLBs are taking up the 5 OLinemen, which is key, he won't have to get off blocks more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 05:42 PM) C'mon now, you know I'm not trying to say SMC is gonna be Urlacher. I'm just saying not being able to get off blocks isn't something that will automatically set you up for failure at ILB. If your front 3 and 2 OLBs are taking up the 5 OLinemen, which is key, he won't have to get off blocks more often than not. You are acting like we have never seen Shea before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 In the run game, you basically want one of your ILBs to do nothing but be blocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 05:57 PM) You are acting like we have never seen Shea before. I'm acting like Shea is at a new position where one of his major flaws can be covered up.. Jake is also right in his last post. Edited August 14, 2015 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 06:29 PM) I'm acting like Shea is at a new position where one of his major flaws can be covered up.. Jake is also right in his last post. You have acted like this each of the past three years with Shea. He comes into training camp with hype, then he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) You have acted like this each of the past three years with Shea. He comes into training camp with hype, then he plays Have I? Quite honestly, I had him behind Foster, Jones, and Bostic as far as ILBs go. The hype, with this new staff just seems different I guess. Fangio essentially said Shea has sucked elsewhere so he's gonna put him at ILB. As if ILB is a position with less skill involved. All I know is this FO and staff has no ties to SMC and he's beating out a pretty good Mason Foster. Edited August 14, 2015 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) We still need a talent infusion. It's very obvious defensively. They are really below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The Bears going 3-13 could be fantastic. Christian Hackenberg is a talented QB and would look great in blue and orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 07:13 PM) The Bears going 3-13 could be fantastic. Christian Hackenberg is a talented QB and would look great in blue and orange. Ugh gross. Not even the best QB in his conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 07:15 PM) Ugh gross. Not even the best QB in his conference. Don't be fooled by the fact he has no offensive line. He is the best NFL QB prospect next year, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) Don't be fooled by the fact he has no offensive line. He is the best NFL QB prospect next year, period. Disagree. I don't think he's the best in the big ten. I'd take Cook over him all day and that's still late round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 07:13 PM) The Bears going 3-13 could be fantastic. Christian Hackenberg is a talented QB and would look great in blue and orange. Maybe Cutler has a good enough year and they can get a top end OT- Conklin, Tunsil, Stanley- and get rid of that overpaid bum Bushrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 07:13 PM) The Bears going 3-13 could be fantastic. Christian Hackenberg is a talented QB and would look great in blue and orange. If the future depended on Hackenberg, it might finally be time to give up the season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 07:26 PM) Disagree. I don't think he's the best in the big ten. I'd take Cook over him all day and that's still late round. I don't get all the love Connor Cook gets. He's a good college QB who can lead a conference championship team, but he's not an NFL quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Kevin White likely out for season ... Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 That, word for word, was gonna be my exact post B. Yuck. I was leaning towards 7 wins but if White is out the whole year, 4-5 wins seems possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 This sucks so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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