July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 08:49 AM) Rise and Fall of Mark Buehrle That thread is now almost 11 years old. That is just amazing. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...&hl=decline
July 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) That thread is now almost 11 years old. That is just amazing. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...&hl=decline That is wonderful.
July 26, 201510 yr If Mark Buehrle wins tomorrow, he will be 1 win behind Sabbathia and 2 wins behind Colon for the lead among active pitchers. He will likely soon pass those two and reign as the active leader for as long as he wants to play. He's only 36, so he could hold this title for awhile. Has he said what his plans are beyond this year? He's as good as ever, and should get a healthy deal from someone if he wants to keep going. Sure hope he does. Has a real chance at the Hall, imo. Edited July 26, 201510 yr by Stan Bahnsen
July 26, 201510 yr QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 09:20 PM) If Mark Buehrle wins tomorrow, he will be 1 win behind Sabbathia and 2 wins behind Colon for the lead among active pitchers. He will likely soon pass those two and reign as the active leader for as long as he wants to play. He's only 36, so he could hold this title for awhile. Has he said what his plans are beyond this year? He's as good as ever, and should get a healthy deal from someone if he wants to keep going. Sure hope he does. Has a real chance at the Hall, imo. He's at 48 career fWAR and 60.7 bWAR (fangraphs always underestimated him IMO because he doens't striek people out). For the Baseball Reference numbers that already puts him right in the range where he's in the discussion. End of the year he'll be next to guys named Drysdale, Marichal, Vance, Eckersley. B-R says that in their numbers the average pitching HOF has 70. Fangraphs he's a bit farther away but with a legit shot remaining.
July 26, 201510 yr At the very least, I hope Buehrle keeps going as long as 30+/10+/200+ remains intact....especially the 200+ innings. Hall or not, he's had a remarkable career. He's definitely made his mark on the game...no pun intended.
July 26, 201510 yr Author QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 08:20 PM) If Mark Buehrle wins tomorrow, he will be 1 win behind Sabbathia and 2 wins behind Colon for the lead among active pitchers. He will likely soon pass those two and reign as the active leader for as long as he wants to play. He's only 36, so he could hold this title for awhile. Has he said what his plans are beyond this year? He's as good as ever, and should get a healthy deal from someone if he wants to keep going. Sure hope he does. Has a real chance at the Hall, imo. Last time he did the complete opposite of what he said his plans were so who knows. I feel like he could pitch in the NL West until he was 50. (Not ARI or COL of course )
July 26, 201510 yr OK, so I forgot Tim Hudson, who's at 219, but I imagine this is his last year, too. MB56 should be leading by mid-season next year at the latest, unless I'm forgetting someone else. Edited July 26, 201510 yr by Stan Bahnsen
July 26, 201510 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 08:29 PM) He's at 48 career fWAR and 60.7 bWAR (fangraphs always underestimated him IMO because he doens't striek people out). For the Baseball Reference numbers that already puts him right in the range where he's in the discussion. End of the year he'll be next to guys named Drysdale, Marichal, Vance, Eckersley. B-R says that in their numbers the average pitching HOF has 70. Fangraphs he's a bit farther away but with a legit shot remaining. Fangraphs underestimates guys like Buehrle because he consistently outperforms his FIP due to his fielding and outstanding ability to hold runners on base.
July 26, 201510 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 02:31 PM) Fangraphs underestimates guys like Buehrle because he consistently outperforms his FIP due to his fielding and outstanding ability to hold runners on base. They recommend when looking at full career numbers for pitchers to use the RA9/WAR instead of the main one they show on the player pages.
July 27, 201510 yr So with Bryant and Pederson slumping is Arenado currently the favorite to win NL ROY?
July 27, 201510 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:35 AM) So with Bryant and Pederson slumping is Arenado currently the favorite to win NL ROY? Arenado was a rookie in 2013. You thinking of somebody else?
July 27, 201510 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:38 AM) Arenado was a rookie in 2013. You thinking of somebody else? You're right, for some reason I thought he was a rookie.
August 1, 201510 yr SportsCenter @SportsCenter 32m32 minutes ago The Dodgers are paying $85.75M to players no longer with the team. That's more than six teams' ENTIRE PAYROLL.
August 2, 201510 yr In the bottom of the 9th inning and his closer struggling, Lloyd McClendon went out of his way to argue a check swing call and was intentionally trying to get tossed from the game and the crew chief just turned his back on him. How is McClendon still a manager?
August 2, 201510 yr QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ Aug 1, 2015 -> 09:05 PM) In the bottom of the 9th inning and his closer struggling, Lloyd McClendon went out of his way to argue a check swing call and was intentionally trying to get tossed from the game and the crew chief just turned his back on him. How is McClendon still a manager? How is Jack Z. still the GM?
August 8, 201510 yr Mets at Tampa tonight sounds like it's 90% Mets fans. Pretty interesting spectacle.
August 8, 201510 yr Nats sending Fister to the bullpen. Can't say I saw that coming at the start of the year.
August 8, 201510 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) Mets at Tampa tonight sounds like it's 90% Mets fans. Pretty interesting spectacle. New York retirees moving to Florida is something of a stereotype.
August 8, 201510 yr Trout hits homer 33 and 131 of his career on his 24th birthday. Not a bad player. Kid's got a future in this game...
August 8, 201510 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:27 PM) Trout hits homer 33 and 131 of his career on his 24th birthday. Not a bad player. Kid's got a future in this game... This kid has superstar written all over him.
August 8, 201510 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:27 PM) Trout hits homer 33 and 131 of his career on his 24th birthday. Not a bad player. Kid's got a future in this game... Also his third birthday homerun
August 8, 201510 yr Everyone had the Sox skipping Trout and the Angels taking him, but damn, if it doesn't hurt every time I see him play. He actually has a shot at being the GOAT. That's insane.
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