July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:58 PM) it proves what most on this site been saying on hahn and kw. i wonder who orchestrated the actual players in the trade??? kw or hahn??? Been going on for months. KW / TOR is still a hot button topic don't think it's not. Big drama in the FO this season.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:00 AM) Being all in for 2016 would have no impact on Shark deal, he is going to free agency regardless. I does affect the talks but more within than with partners.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:03 AM) Been going on for months. KW / TOR is still a hot button topic don't think it's not. Big drama in the FO this season. This is why we cant have nice things. We have a guy who wants to burn down the farm going for it no matter what the odds. If the odds are greater than 0 then he pushes the chips in.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:55 PM) Deals for Shark to TOR and SF in place. The deals are sitting there. KW is still "all in" on '16 and Rick is not so there's that drama right now. I was just thinking KW and Hahn have to be butting heads right now a lot. Who's in charge here ?
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:58 PM) Amy idea on the targets? Well they move him before the start tomorrow or wait til Friday you think Not sure they even know as of tonight. Doubt the deal parts are changing before Friday.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:07 AM) I was just thinking KW and Hahn have to be butting heads right now a lot. Who's in charge here ? But some on here say KW not involved much, I say BS he never is not involved. Edited July 28, 201510 yr by Soxfest
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:07 AM) I was just thinking KW and Hahn have to be butting heads right now a lot. Who's in charge here ? KW is in charge.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:05 AM) I does affect the talks but more within than with partners. many thanks..... i am not trying to put words in your sentences to imply anything, ok. but by the bold, so it is the owners pushing for this then.
July 28, 201510 yr I don't want to deal Quintana because I don't trust that Kenny would get the right return for him.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:57 PM) I think Shark to Toronto in a deal that Sox get Hoffman with 2 others. Toronto might have given up the prospects the Sox wanted in the Tulo trade. Don't know who the minor leaguers are yet .
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:09 AM) KW is in charge. and i would assume b/c he is pres of the org.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:55 PM) Deals for Shark to TOR and SF in place. The deals are sitting there. KW is still "all in" on '16 and Rick is not so there's that drama right now. The problem is that the Giants have too much respect for Hudson and Vogelsong to push them out of the rotation at this point. Although surely we have interest in Susac/Sanchez (catchers) for one...
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:07 AM) Not sure they even know as of tonight. Doubt the deal parts are changing before Friday. Giants have very little in terms of hitting prospects. Tor will be desperate for a starter now.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) I don't want to deal Quintana because I don't trust that Kenny would get the right return for him. I have no faith in KW as a talent evaluator
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) KW is in charge. That's not surprising.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:09 PM) KW is in charge. If that's the case , Hahn may resign out of frustration if he can't implement his own ideas on effecting changes.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) Toronto might have given up the prospects the Sox wanted in the Tulo trade. Don't know who the minor leaguers are yet . True should be interesting who Colorado got.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:12 AM) If that's the case , Hahn may resign out of frustration if he can't implement his own ideas on effecting changes. Every move Hahn wants to make he has to clear through KW it would get old fast.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:15 AM) Kenny really needs to f*** off.. unless he is doing the owners work this nite.
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:13 PM) Every move Hahn wants to make he has to clear through KW it would get old fast. Exactly. What's the point of being GM if you're not the one in charge. It's an empty title. Ever heard the phrase "too many cooks spoil the broth" ? Edited July 28, 201510 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:55 PM) Deals for Shark to TOR and SF in place. The deals are sitting there. KW is still "all in" on '16 and Rick is not so there's that drama right now. I wonder if this TOR deal for Tulo effects that now
July 28, 201510 yr QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:17 AM) I wonder if this TOR deal for Tulo effects that now They for sure will acquire a pitcher.
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