July 1, 201510 yr We have no good or fun threads going on right now so let us all know how much you love Chris Sale... He's my best friend. EDIT: subtitle should say "with at least 10 k's". I suck. Edited July 1, 201510 yr by Rowand44
July 1, 201510 yr the best i can say is Sale is this team certified ACE and i am extremely happy he is on the sox team and hope he retires as a sox with several WS rings to boot.
July 1, 201510 yr If he stays healthy, he seriously could be Hall Of Fame material. Best Sox pitcher in franchise history.
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (Doc Edwards Shot @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:29 PM) If he stays healthy, he seriously could be Hall Of Fame material. Best Sox pitcher in franchise history. Ed Walsh is near impossible to top
July 1, 201510 yr First 100 starts (relief appearance stats removed) Randy Johnson: 38-34, 592 K's / 621.1 IP (8.57 K/9) Sandy Koufax: 30-37, 557 K's / 565.1 IP (8.87 K/9) Pedro Martinez: (??), 649 K's / 649.2 IP (8.99 K/9) Nolan Ryan: (??), 642K's / 631.1 IP (9.15 K/9) Chris Sale: 46-30, 766 K's / 682.2 IP (10.09 K/9) yeah............. Edited July 1, 201510 yr by Real
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (Real @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 12:23 PM) First 100 starts (relief appearance stats removed) Randy Johnson: 38-34, 592 K's / 621.1 IP (8.57 K/9) Sandy Koufax: 30-37, 557 K's / 565.1 IP (8.87 K/9) Pedro Martinez: (??), 649 K's / 649.2 IP (8.99 K/9) Chris Sale: 46-30, 766 K's / 682.2 IP (10.09 K/9) yeah............. impressive ..... very impressive. those are some elite names there, with him.
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 06:29 AM) impressive ..... very impressive. those are some elite names there, with him. added nolan ryan's stats anyone feel free to double check my stats one thing i noticed while going through ryan's entire game log as a starter from 1968 to 1972 he got pulled out of a ton of games early (1-3 innings) for getting lit the f*k up lol
July 1, 201510 yr Baseball reference uses 1000 IP as it's qualifier for career rate statistics. Sale should reach the 1000 IP mark sometime around the All-Star break next year. When he does, if his numbers stay where they're at, and they could improve as he keeps getting better and better, his all time ranks will be incredibly impressive in quite a few categories. As a reference to how close he is to the all time leaders in these categories, I'll list the top 4 and then Sale's rank. WHIP 1. Addie Joss - 0.9678 2. Ed Walsh - 0.9996 3. Mariano Rivera - 1.0003 4. John Ward - 1.0435 5. Chris Sale - 1.0539 H/9 1. Nolan Ryan - 6.56 2. Sandy Koufax - 6.79 3. Clayton Kershaw - 6.79 4. Sid Fernandez - 6.85 18. Chris Sale - 7.23 K/9 1. Randy Johnson - 10.61 2. Kerry Wood - 10.32 3. Chris Sale - 10.2 4. Pedro Martinez - 10.04 5. Max Scherzer - 9.68 K/BB 1. Tommy Bond - 5.04 2. Chris Sale - 4.50 3. Curt Schilling - 4.38 4. Pedro Martinez - 4.15 5. Mariano Rivera - 4.10 ERA+ 1. Mariano Rivera - 205 2. Pedro Martinez - 154 3. Jim Devlin - 150 4. Clayton Kershaw - 149 6. Chris Sale - 147 That's pretty damn impressive for a guy who I think still hasn't peaked. Barring any health issues, I don't think there's any doubt we are watching the making's of a Hall of Famer. After last night's game, he is now on pace for 305 strikeouts this season. Nobody reaches the 300 K mark anymore. Edited July 1, 201510 yr by lasttriptotulsa
July 1, 201510 yr who was it recently that said getting a hit off Sale is like trying to drink coffee with a fork lol
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (Real @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 06:55 AM) added nolan ryan's stats anyone feel free to double check my stats one thing i noticed while going through ryan's entire game log as a starter from 1968 to 1972 he got pulled out of a ton of games early (1-3 innings) for getting lit the f*k up lol Ryan also won exactly zero Cy Young awards
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 12:16 PM) Baseball reference uses 1000 IP as it's qualifier for career rate statistics. Sale should reach the 1000 IP mark sometime around the All-Star break next year. When he does, if his numbers stay where they're at, and they could improve as he keeps getting better and better, his all time ranks will be incredibly impressive in quite a few categories. As a reference to how close he is to the all time leaders in these categories, I'll list the top 4 and then Sale's rank. WHIP 1. Addie Joss - 0.9678 2. Ed Walsh - 0.9996 3. Mariano Rivera - 1.0003 4. John Ward - 1.0435 5. Chris Sale - 1.0539 H/9 1. Nolan Ryan - 6.56 2. Sandy Koufax - 6.79 3. Clayton Kershaw - 6.79 4. Sid Fernandez - 6.85 18. Chris Sale - 7.23 K/9 1. Randy Johnson - 10.61 2. Kerry Wood - 10.32 3. Chris Sale - 10.2 4. Pedro Martinez - 10.04 5. Max Scherzer - 9.68 K/BB 1. Tommy Bond - 5.04 2. Chris Sale - 4.50 3. Curt Schilling - 4.38 4. Pedro Martinez - 4.15 5. Mariano Rivera - 4.10 ERA+ 1. Mariano Rivera - 205 2. Pedro Martinez - 154 3. Jim Devlin - 150 4. Clayton Kershaw - 149 6. Chris Sale - 147 That's pretty damn impressive for a guy who I think still hasn't peaked. Barring any health issues, I don't think there's any doubt we are watching the making's of a Hall of Famer. After last night's game, he is now on pace for 305 strikeouts this season. Nobody reaches the 300 K mark anymore. good point about peaking.... and how old is he. what future he has,
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (Real @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 12:34 PM) who was it recently that said getting a hit off Sale is like trying to drink coffee with a fork lol excellent
July 1, 201510 yr Really enjoyed watching him pitch with the dead-center camera angle in St. Louis. It allowed you to see the movement on his pitches so much differently. That's the gold standard for baseball viewing on TV.
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 08:25 AM) Really enjoyed watching him pitch with the dead-center camera angle in St. Louis. It allowed you to see the movement on his pitches so much differently. That's the gold standard for baseball viewing on TV. oh so now they have the worlds best fans and the gold standard for baseball viewing. F*** this bull****
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 08:38 AM) oh so now they have the worlds best fans and the gold standard for baseball viewing. F*** this bull**** Sorry, I was misinformed. They have the BFIB but only the 5th BCAIB (best camera angle in baseball).
July 1, 201510 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 07:38 AM) oh so now they have the worlds best fans and the gold standard for baseball viewing. F*** this bull**** Their grounds crew uses a mixture of leftover champagne from past championship celebrations, Voss + tears collected from fans of all the teams they eliminate in postseason play to achieve the most luscious, emerald hued grass in all of baseball.
July 1, 201510 yr I love Chris Sale as much as the rest, but let's be careful with the "hasn't even peaked yet" thing. Aging curves -- never rigid in the first place -- have been creeping toward the younger side for years now, and we know that velocity especially peaks very young. Pitchers that have long, HOF careers typically do so because they are able to evolve their approach and arsenal as their stuff declines. I do think that Chris can be one of those guys, but we should acknowledge that his "stuff" is as good now as it will ever be and that he isn't due to become physically more dominant just because he isn't 27 yet. There are always exceptions, of course, but they're rare.
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