Dunt Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 By all accounts, Desmond had an atrocious season last year for a guy coming off 3 straight 4+ win seasons. He failed to reach the 20/20 club for the first time since 2011 and was a butcher with the glove. I still think the Nationals might offer a QO to him, but does anybody think he is one of the best bounce back candidates of this FA class? His second half line bounced back quite a bit to the tune of .262/.331/.446 which is above average production from the SS spot. There is a great deal of risk involved in a long term contract with him, but if he could be had for $14-15 MM a year over 4 years, I think it's something the Sox should contemplate. That would give you the ability to slide Anderson to 2nd or move Desmond to DH if his glove continues to slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 MLB TR also mentioned the Sox as a possible landing space for Desmond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) By all accounts, Desmond had an atrocious season last year for a guy coming off 3 straight 4+ win seasons. He failed to reach the 20/20 club for the first time since 2011 and was a butcher with the glove. I still think the Nationals might offer a QO to him, but does anybody think he is one of the best bounce back candidates of this FA class? His second half line bounced back quite a bit to the tune of .262/.331/.446 which is above average production from the SS spot. There is a great deal of risk involved in a long term contract with him, but if he could be had for $14-15 MM a year over 4 years, I think it's something the Sox should contemplate. That would give you the ability to slide Anderson to 2nd or move Desmond to DH if his glove continues to slide. Â Or even slide him to third if we still have no one there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Is $15 mil a year a "buy-low" scenario? Also, if he's a SS butcher, how does that help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Realistically, Alexei will be our SS next year. I really believe that. MAYBE the Sox could look at Desmond at 3rd, but I don't see us spending big money on a new SS, with bigger holes at 3B and C. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) Is $15 mil a year a "buy-low" scenario? Also, if he's a SS butcher, how does that help? Â $15 million in FA basically equates to a 2 win player. He had his worst year as a professional and still managed to put up 1.7 wins. Butcher might be hyperbolic, but he had a bad first half with the glove and still finished the season with a positive defensive score. Â EDIT: As a side note, Desmond had a higher defensive score than Alexei last season. Edited October 30, 2015 by Dunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'd prefer Desmond over Wieters if that means anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) I'd prefer Desmond over Wieters if that means anything. Desmond is not a very good catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Can he play third? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 01:06 PM) Can he play third? Â He has played 3B zero innings in MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 12:20 PM) Realistically, Alexei will be our SS next year. I really believe that. MAYBE the Sox could look at Desmond at 3rd, but I don't see us spending big money on a new SS, with bigger holes at 3B and C. Â Exactly. Picking up Alexei's option is a near no-brainer IMO. Sure, the Sox may be paying him a $1-2M more than his "market value", but they have a replacement a year away and the FA market is void of legitimate 1 year options that are going to be both cheaper and more or equally effective on the field (as Alexei). Â Pick up the option, and worry about 3B, C and a legitimate corner OF. Edited October 30, 2015 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Anyone think Tim Anderson is basically Dee Gordon with a little more pop and a little less speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 He certainly could be a number of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) Anyone think Tim Anderson is basically Dee Gordon with a little more pop and a little less speed? Â We wouldn't mind that at all especially if he can handle short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 01:56 PM) Exactly. Picking up Alexei's option is a near no-brainer IMO. Sure, the Sox may be paying him a $1-2M more than his "market value", but they have a replacement a year away and the FA market is void of legitimate 1 year options that are going to be both cheaper and more or equally effective on the field (as Alexei). Pick up the option, and worry about 3B, C and a legitimate corner OF. I don't think it's a no-brainer to pick up Alexi's option. Unless sentimentality is part of the deal. Saladino as good at 6% the cost. Spend the money elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 03:38 PM) I don't think it's a no-brainer to pick up Alexi's option. Unless sentimentality is part of the deal. Saladino as good at 6% the cost. Spend the money elsewhere. Â Not sure that will help sell any season tickets...for casual fans, it looks like punting on the season before it even begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannerfan Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) Not sure that will help sell any season tickets...for casual fans, it looks like punting on the season before it even begins. Â The punting on the season happened when they brought back Ventura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) The punting on the season happened when they brought back Ventura  Fair point...  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'd be ok with this depending on the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 04:38 PM) I don't think it's a no-brainer to pick up Alexi's option. Unless sentimentality is part of the deal. Saladino as good at 6% the cost. Spend the money elsewhere. Â Except Saladino isn't even close to as good of a MLB SS as Alexei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Not sure viewing every move through the lens of how many season tickets it sells is a productive exercise for this board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I think his bat works at SS but not as well at 3B. Don't see a huge improvement over Ramirez and he'll cost $45-$65MM???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) By all accounts, Desmond had an atrocious season last year for a guy coming off 3 straight 4+ win seasons. He failed to reach the 20/20 club for the first time since 2011 and was a butcher with the glove. I still think the Nationals might offer a QO to him, but does anybody think he is one of the best bounce back candidates of this FA class? His second half line bounced back quite a bit to the tune of .262/.331/.446 which is above average production from the SS spot. There is a great deal of risk involved in a long term contract with him, but if he could be had for $14-15 MM a year over 4 years, I think it's something the Sox should contemplate. That would give you the ability to slide Anderson to 2nd or move Desmond to DH if his glove continues to slide. If he gets a QO, he's not a buy low candidate. But, yes, if the price really were low, take him. Â Sox have no business throwing away draft choices like they did last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Is $15 mil a year a "buy-low" scenario? Also, if he's a SS butcher, how does that help? Â Let's add another career NL player who by the All Star break might be bad enough that can't be traded back to the NL. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Let's add another career NL player who by the All Star break might be bad enough that can't be traded back to the NL. Â 3 years ago...I'd have loved him. Â After ALL the NL signing FAIL.. I don't want a single thing from the NL. Nothing. Â I'm with kite on this. Â (And that includes Heyward). Â Puig is the only one that is interesting to me.... Â I think Hahn could get Puig AND Cespedes (he's more AL than NL) if he's got any brains in his damn head.... Edited November 1, 2015 by Ballz-n-Strikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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