They really do need an ace and they could have gone after Jordan Zimmermann who should be cheaper than Price. Then again, I don't know much about the Jays finances either.

 

I'm quite surprised they didn't go after Samardzija. Maybe Samardzija's asking price is too much?

 

There's nothing impressive about that rotation when looking beyond Estrada and Stroman. The Jays offense will need to continue mashing to win games.

 

I've always read that the ownership up there has a ton of money but seem unwilling to spend the big bucks.

I hear that Marcus Stroman kid is pretty good.

I don't think it's fair for him to have to be the ace of that staff quite yet. He's still super young and coming off of an injury plagued season.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 2m2 minutes ago

#Tigers in discussions with Jordan Zimmermann, sources tell @ken_rosenthal and me, with multiple people saying talks have become serious.

 

Bring it.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 2m2 minutes ago

#Tigers in discussions with Jordan Zimmermann, sources tell @ken_rosenthal and me, with multiple people saying talks have become serious.

 

Bring it.

 

Well that's a little unexpected

Well that's a little unexpected

 

I'm not really surprised. I expect them to sign 2 guys not in the top tier (guys like Zimmermann, Samardzija, Iwakuma, Leake, Cueto, etc.). Some combination of them.

Nothing would make me happier then to see the Tigers spend $100+ million on a guy like Zimmermann when they're clearly not good enough to win the division.

As a Sox fan, I feel this would be a wise move for Detroit. Go right ahead and tie up 100M+ in another contract that could become another albatross like Verlander's in a few years. Assuming Zimmermann gets the speculated 6 years. I think Zimmermann could hold his value for another 3 or 4 years but not 6. Go for it Tigers!

As a Sox fan, I feel this would be a wise move for Detroit. Go right ahead and tie up 100M+ in another contract that could become another albatross like Verlander's in a few years. Assuming Zimmermann gets the speculated 6 years. I think Zimmermann could hold his value for another 3 or 4 years but not 6. Go for it Tigers!

 

ahhh i like the machiavellian idea of that. .... real nice way to look at it.

At least Detroit tries. Can't fault them for that. We keep talking about well they'll regret it later, meanwhile they'll continue to own us.

Nothing would make me happier then to see the Tigers spend $100+ million on a guy like Zimmermann when they're clearly not good enough to win the division.

As a Sox fan, I feel this would be a wise move for Detroit. Go right ahead and tie up 100M+ in another contract that could become another albatross like Verlander's in a few years. Assuming Zimmermann gets the speculated 6 years. I think Zimmermann could hold his value for another 3 or 4 years but not 6. Go for it Tigers!

Great minds think alike.

@jonmorosi: Sources: Jordan Zimmermann's deal with #Tigers expected to be 5 years and around $110 million. @JonHeymanCBS first reported agreement.

Only 15 free agents left with QOs. Hope they all sign on different teams without protected protected first round picks (or the Padres with 2 comp picks before us).

This is a move I love seeing as a White Sox fan. Let Detoliet sign an older overpriced overrated NL SP from a team that stole theirs, a real AL SP Stud in Scherzer. If they had this $$$ to throw at a guy who to me is an AL #3 or #4 SP at his best, why not splurge and keep Max?

 

Enjoy this deal Tigers fans. You're paying Verlander, Sanchez & Zimmerman a combined $66 million to pitch in 2016. Their 2 best SPs may end up being Norris and Boyd, 2 guys that don't combine for $2 million in 2016! If the Tigers want to add that 2nd #2 Tier Free Agent SP like Cueto, be my guest.

 

Maybe they can spend $90 million a year on 4 overrated starting pitchers that best fit in the National League?

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At least Detroit tries. Can't fault them for that. We keep talking about well they'll regret it later, meanwhile they'll continue to own us.

The last two years Detroit has gone 20-18 against us, that's not "owning us".

This is a move I love seeing as a White Sox fan. Let Detoliet sign an older overpriced overrated NL SP from a team that stole theirs, a real AL SP Stud in Scherzer. If they had this $$$ to throw at a guy who to me is an AL #3 or #4 SP at his best, why not splurge and keep Max?

 

Enjoy this deal Tigers fans. You're paying Verlander, Sanchez & Zimmerman a combined $66 million to pitch in 2016. Their 2 best SPs may end up being Norris and Boyd, 2 guys that don't combine for $2 million in 2016! If the Tigers want to add that 2nd #2 Tier Free Agent SP like Cueto, be my guest.

 

Maybe they can spend $90 million a year on 4 overrated starting pitchers that best fit in the National League?

I agree. However, with this new explosion in $$$ going to free agents, makes you wonder if the Sox are hoarding $$$s. How can some teams afford to pay these outlandish contracts? Just makes you wonder if the Sox and all teams still would make money with 200 to 300 million dollar payrolls. I mean before too long somebody's gonna have a billion dollar payroll. This salary escalation is showing no signs of stopping.

Honestly that's not a bad deal for a guy like Zimmerman. It's just Detroit has too much junk on their payroll that really dampens this signing.

Honestly I thought Zimmerman would get a lot more (closer to $150 million than $100 million), so not a bad deal for the Tigers.

Honestly that's not a bad deal for a guy like Zimmerman. It's just Detroit has too much junk on their payroll that really dampens this signing.

 

I agree with this. He had a down year last season but up until that point he was a front of the line starter.

Yeah Zimmerman's a really good SP and that deal is not all that bad. I had him pegged in the $140-$150mil range. Very good signing for Detroit IMO.

Signing Zimmerman to a 5 year deal, instead of the expected 7 years is pretty big. The Tigers should probably stop throwing large contracts around, but it's not really a bad deal on paper.

 

sp - Johnny Cueto and the amount he rejected. there are 2 different amounts that was offered, a contract in the 15-18 mil range and another in the 6yrs/120 range. either way, before last yr, i would have sworn that he was in the 25 per range or more. but after last yr performance, i thought the 6/120 is a fair price.

sp - Johnny Cueto and the amount he rejected. there are 2 different amounts that was offered, a contract in the 15-18 mil range and another in the 6yrs/120 range. either way, before last yr, i would have sworn that he was in the 25 per range or more. but after last yr performance, i thought the 6/120 is a fair price.

 

 

Nah. He'll get more than that.

Nah. He'll get more than that.

 

yeah you are right, its just that i am not impress with him to justify what it would cost to sign him.

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Any AL team that gives Cueto a 6 year/$120 million or more deal is crazy.

 

He's way past his prime, especially if he stays in the AL.

 

Maybe he'd be worth that contract to an NL team, but he was basically like Samardzija in the AL.

Any AL team that gives Cueto a 6 year/$120 million or more deal is crazy.

 

He's way past his prime, especially if he stays in the AL.

 

Maybe he'd be worth that contract to an NL team, but he was basically like Samardzija in the AL. more like on the sox

 

a good example.

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