Cespedes just had a career year, I'd rather not pay the price tag that comes along with it. Heyward will definitely be worth his contract, defense in general is still very underrated. Preventing a run is the same as generating one.

 

This.

Cespedes just had a career year, I'd rather not pay the price tag that comes along with it. Heyward will definitely be worth his contract, defense in general is still very underrated. Preventing a run is the same as generating one.

 

 

Agree. I prefer Cespedes to Upton, but I really don't want either.

Cespedes just had a career year, I'd rather not pay the price tag that comes along with it. Heyward will definitely be worth his contract, defense in general is still very underrated. Preventing a run is the same as generating one.

 

Hate to say it but preventing a run is not as same as generating one. Saladino had 12 defensive runs saved at 3rd which is like tops in baseball at 3rd base. Sanchez had 6 defensive runs saved at 2nd. Unfortunately both helped the Sox have the worst offense in baseball at those position this year. If Heywards defense regresses then you don't have much of a player if his offense doesn't pick up.

Hate to say it but preventing a run is not as same as generating one. Saladino had 12 defensive runs saved at 3rd which is like tops in baseball at 3rd base. Sanchez had 6 defensive runs saved at 2nd. Unfortunately both helped the Sox have the worst offense in baseball at those position this year. If Heywards defense regresses then you don't have much of a player if his offense doesn't pick up.

 

That's not really how it works...

That's not really how it works...

 

Saying that's not how it works vs actually explaining it isnt helping

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 15m15 minutes ago

From the not-a-surprise department: Multiple GMs say because of the price of free agents, they expect trade action in Nashville to be big.

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 15m15 minutes ago

From the not-a-surprise department: Multiple GMs say because of the price of free agents, they expect trade action in Nashville to be big.

 

Last year's was huge. I think there were more trades last year than like the 5 combined prior.

I think if we were to get him on an 8/9 year deal with opt-outs after year 4 or 5, his older years won't even matter because he likely won't be our problem.

Ya know, I like this idea because the Sox can use the defensive upgrade and its very plausible. Good point with the opt-out clause. If the Sox were able to move some salary by means of trade Heyward becomes much more possible. If the Sox moved just one of Robertson/Danks/Melky and add that to the available funds which is roughly 15-20M, the Sox could be sitting around 30M+ to spend on '16 which easily covers the cost of Heyward's annual salary. There are two hangups in that one of Melky/LaRoche would have to be traded which wont be easy and the Sox lose a pick. Otherwise Heyward is a possibility.

 

With the cost of starting pitching sky rocketing so far this off season and the Sox rumored to be looking for a starting right hander, I'm thinking Danks just might be tradable since he's a one year risk and if he pitches decent could bring a team a comp pick for '17 when Danks hits FA after next season. Maybe the Sox plan is Sale, Q, RHP, Rodon, EJ?

Hate to say it but preventing a run is not as same as generating one. Saladino had 12 defensive runs saved at 3rd which is like tops in baseball at 3rd base. Sanchez had 6 defensive runs saved at 2nd. Unfortunately both helped the Sox have the worst offense in baseball at those position this year. If Heywards defense regresses then you don't have much of a player if his offense doesn't pick up.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Saladino had a 61 wRC+ and Sanchez a 60 wRC+. That is horrible. Yet Saladino was worth 1.3 bWAR and Sanchez was worth 0.7 bWAR because of their defense. Heyward is a pretty good hitter, he has a 118 wRC+ for his career. That along with his elite defense makes him worth an elite contract. Saying that if his defense regresses he won't be good is like saying if Miguel Cabrera's offense regresses then he won't be much of a player.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Saladino had a 61 wRC+ and Sanchez a 60 wRC+. That is horrible. Yet Saladino was worth 1.3 bWAR and Sanchez was worth 0.7 bWAR because of their defense. Heyward is a pretty good hitter, he has a 118 wRC+ for his career. That along with his elite defense makes him worth an elite contract. Saying that if his defense regresses he won't be good is like saying if Miguel Cabrera's offense regresses then he won't be much of a player.

Except that his defense assuredly will regress with age.

Plus, just my opinion that that's an over-weight on defensive value, esp. as the Sox are trying to build a groundball staff. Not that OF defense isn't important, but it's nothing that the Sox are really in a position to pay a premium for. They can get competence for far less.

Except that his defense assuredly will regress with age.

Plus, just my opinion that that's an over-weight on defensive value, esp. as the Sox are trying to build a groundball staff. Not that OF defense isn't important, but it's nothing that the Sox are really in a position to pay a premium for. They can get competence for far less.

Implying that offense doesn't regress with age?

From Nashville: I still don't believe the White Sox will add any free agent that will cost them a draft pick.

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673900680839565313

 

I've been wrong before, and I probably will be again at some time. But as of now, I feel confident on that one

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673900812796563456

 

White Sox are targeting infield: 3B, SS even 2B. But their real target is simply making dynamic improvements to a poor '14 offense overall

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673901294269132800

From Nashville: I still don't believe the White Sox will add any free agent that will cost them a draft pick.

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673900680839565313

 

I've been wrong before, and I probably will be again at some time. But as of now, I feel confident on that one

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673900812796563456

 

White Sox are targeting infield: 3B, SS even 2B. But their real target is simply making dynamic improvements to a poor '14 offense overall

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673901294269132800

Let's hope. I'd love to see a big splash, whether it's by trade or FA signing.

He made it seem like Cespedes could be more likely due to no pick lost

From Nashville: I still don't believe the White Sox will add any free agent that will cost them a draft pick.

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673900680839565313

 

I've been wrong before, and I probably will be again at some time. But as of now, I feel confident on that one

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673900812796563456

 

White Sox are targeting infield: 3B, SS even 2B. But their real target is simply making dynamic improvements to a poor '14 offense overall

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/673901294269132800

The '15 offense was really bad too.

You think JR would prefer a late first-round pick, or $20million+ ??

 

I think I know the answer to that.

He made it seem like Cespedes could be more likely due to no pick lost

 

Well they did try to get him at the deadline. With no pick attached and the outgoing personality could make him a big target for sox.

Let's hope. I'd love to see a big splash, whether it's by trade or FA signing.

 

Dynamic means impact, right?

 

It's one thing to find a "guys" to fill out the holes they have, claim that they improved upon these holes, and hope for internal improvement offensively that will complement the defense. It's a whole different approach to realize that the offense needs impact hitters in the middle of the order, probably 2 to make next year interesting. If they can do this without damaging their farm system, that would be a good act. Not sure if that will be possible though.

Welp...this has turned into a catch all.