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2016 MLB catch all thread

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Out 8 weeks or longer...for those who didn't read the Pence article in full.

 

Giants now another competitor w/ the Sox on the "outfielder/DH" demand side equation.

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The Dodgers and Clayton Kershaw are a -425 favorite against the Braves tonight. Not sure I've ever seen a moneyline that high.

Dodgers DFA Carl Crawford

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 11:45 AM)
Dodgers DFA Carl Crawford

I'd give him a look over Shuck if it were at the league minimum.

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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:35 PM)
I'd give him a look over Shuck if it were at the league minimum.

 

The problem is that he can only play LF, and not even that well.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:36 PM)
The problem is that he can only play LF, and not even that well.

Never mind then, thought he could still play some CF.

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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:40 PM)
Never mind then, thought he could still play some CF.

 

It looks like the last time he played Cf was 2008. He hasn't had a positive DRS since 2013. His last Range factor over league average was 2010.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:43 PM)
It looks like the last time he played Cf was 2008. He hasn't had a positive DRS since 2013. His last Range factor over league average was 2010.

Now you're just embarrassing me! :P

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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:44 PM)
Now you're just embarrassing me! :P

 

Honestly, I had to look all that up. Being in LA, I barely get to see the guy.

Carl Crawford made a lot of money. He should enjoy it.

Saw Crawford plays some against the Cubs. He's done, would be a bad fit for a team trying to improve its offense

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 11:56 AM)
Carl Crawford made a lot of money. He should enjoy it.

Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs.

Fwiw, turns out Boston rolling the dice on Moncada is looking much better too.

Like they need to ADD to that offense, right?

 

Of course, a team with that amount of resources can have failures from Buchholz, Sandoval and Rusney Castillo without batting an eye. Otoh, just one or two bad (large) contracts has set the White Sox back consistently over the last 20 years or so.

 

Rich getting richer...not that it has helped the Yankees tremendously in this modern era.

And the Dodgers/Angels haven't exactly owned baseball, either.

 

 

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 12:17 PM)
Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs.

 

 

That's also an argument for why (motivated) players on one year deals (or ideally, one year and an option) such as Fowler and Desmond made even more sense...and still would have resulted in some form of compensation, it just would have been pushed back another year.

 

If you have either of those guys playing instead of Austin Jackson, the White Sox are still out in first place, at least for now.

 

The other problem here was the money was spread out so thinly it left only third-tier options like Rollins, Avila, Navarro, Jackson and Latos that were bound to go bust...which is playing out now how most would have predicted/projected in the offseason. Along with Jacob Turner, a bunch of lottery tickets, the MLB equivalent of Micker Adolfo.

 

 

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Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 12m12 minutes ago

Manny Machado receives 4 game suspension and $2,500 fine #Orioles

Cubs acquire Chris Coghlan for Alcantara. I know people on this sited wanted him on the bench.

So Giancarlo Stanton is currently worse than 2012-2014 Adam Dunn. At age 26. Uh oh, hope it's just a bad 2.5 months.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 08:43 AM)
So Giancarlo Stanton is currently worse than 2012-2014 Adam Dunn. At age 26. Uh oh, hope it's just a bad 2.5 months.

So do the Marlins. They gave him that huge extension and were counting on him opting out.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 01:17 PM)
Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs.

Especially guys whose performance is largely leg related.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 01:17 PM)
Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs.

This is why the big payroll teams have the advantage. If you look at the salary figures for each team, look at the salaries on the DL. Big payroll teams can absorb it and have other players. look at the cubs. They lose Schwarber, but don't miss a beat because they could spend on Heyward. Without Heyward, Soler would already have been a starter.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:44 AM)
This is why the big payroll teams have the advantage. If you look at the salary figures for each team, look at the salaries on the DL. Big payroll teams can absorb it and have other players. look at the cubs. They lose Schwarber, but don't miss a beat because they could spend on Heyward. Without Heyward, Soler would already have been a starter.

But there's another bias you're missing - the guys who have the big salaries are also typically older and therefore are more likely to hit the DL anyway.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 12:04 PM)
But there's another bias you're missing - the guys who have the big salaries are also typically older and therefore are more likely to hit the DL anyway.

That would interesting to look at. Who has the bigger salary 26-31 or 31-36? I would put the latter group in the more likely to be injured but not the former.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 02:25 PM)
That would interesting to look at. Who has the bigger salary 26-31 or 31-36? I would put the latter group in the more likely to be injured but not the former.

Absolutely the latter group. The only way guys stay in the league until they're in their 30s is if they've already had years of success, and the only 26 year olds in baseball who will be hitting free agency at 26 are Harper and Trout.

 

Plus, GMs love signing those contracts that balloon over time.

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