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Fowler Signs with Cubs

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We could all forget about this if we can get Josh Reddick from the A's. He would be a great get.

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People saying this is some awful offseason aren't dealing in reality. They made quite a few substantial improvements.

 

That said, what is so frustrating to me is that it WAS a pretty good offseason, and they left themselves just one major hole short that would have made it a really good offseason. That makes no sense. Why go most of the way? When Fowler was obviously so affordable? That does piss me off.

 

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 10:26 AM)
Seeing Coghlan go for so cheap makes me think they're targeting someone specifically. Ethier remains the likely target, IMO

 

Or could it be the fact that they are truly done?

 

I really don't know at this point but what I do know is they have officially pissed me off.

On the other side of the coin, if Theo is going to give Coughlan away, why would he give him to the White Sox instead of a team like Oakland?

 

BTW, I don't think Coughlan is very good. It doesn't bother me they didn't trade for him.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 07:28 PM)
Or could it be the fact that they are truly done?

 

I really don't know at this point but what I do know is they have officially pissed me off.

 

Not based off of what Hahn said today

 

David Kaplan ‏@thekapman 1h1 hour ago

Rick Hahn on @ESPN1000: "I fully expect that we'll make another move for 2016. But, until it happens you never know if it will get done."

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 12:28 PM)
People saying this is some awful offseason aren't dealing in reality. They made quite a few substantial improvements.

 

That said, what is so frustrating to me is that it WAS a pretty good offseason, and they left themselves just one major hole short that would have made it a really good offseason. That makes no sense. Why go most of the way? When Fowler was obviously so affordable? That does piss me off.

 

Voice of reason. Everything in this post is 100% true.

 

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 12:28 PM)
Or could it be the fact that they are truly done?

 

I really don't know at this point but what I do know is they have officially pissed me off.

 

Could be, but I doubt that. Everything that Hahn has said is that they are still looking for an upgrade.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 12:26 PM)
Seeing Coghlan go for so cheap makes me think they're targeting someone specifically. Ethier remains the likely target, IMO

 

I am starting to think Avi has always been the number one option unless they were given a real gift of a deal for RF.

 

 

 

 

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 07:29 PM)
On the other side of the coin, if Theo is going to give Coughlan away, why would he give him to the White Sox instead of a team like Oakland?

 

BTW, I don't think Coughlan is very good. It doesn't bother me they didn't trade for him.

 

Coghlan isn't great, but he would have easily been 4th best offensive player on the Sox last year (including Frazier)

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 12:29 PM)
Not based off of what Hahn said today

 

David Kaplan ‏@thekapman 1h1 hour ago

Rick Hahn on @ESPN1000: "I fully expect that we'll make another move for 2016. But, until it happens you never know if it will get done."

That's telling. For him to say he expects it, there has to be something very close.

 

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 07:29 PM)
I am starting to think Avi has always been the number one option unless they were given a real gift of a deal for RF.

 

I think he was always going to get a lot of at bats

QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 12:21 PM)
Do they loose a pick?

 

I believe this actually places us back at #28, because now Baltimore doesn't lose a pick, right?

Looks like Fowler is lying. No shock, always thought he was a goof

 

William Hirsch ‏@WilliamAHirsch 5m5 minutes ago

 

Adam Jones said he talked to Fowler and he was excited to report to Sarasota...but OK.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 10:29 AM)
Not based off of what Hahn said today

 

David Kaplan ‏@thekapman 1h1 hour ago

Rick Hahn on @ESPN1000: "I fully expect that we'll make another move for 2016. But, until it happens you never know if it will get done."

 

I guess I mean an impact move, not a Victorino type move.

 

I fully expect some s*** move to say they did something but more speaking about a real positive WAR starter.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 10:31 AM)
I believe this actually places us back at #28, because now Baltimore doesn't lose a pick, right?

 

Baltimore lost pick w/ Gallardo signing. Just means they don't move up in the 2nd.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 10:32 AM)
I guess I mean an impact move, not a Victorino type move.

 

I fully expect some s*** move to say they did something but more speaking about a real positive WAR starter.

They're going to get Ethier before March 23rd.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 12:30 PM)
Coghlan isn't great, but he would have easily been 4th best offensive player on the Sox last year (including Frazier)

That doesn't matter. If it did, the Sox would have been a lot better last year, and no one would have a problem with LaRoche.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 10:34 AM)
They're going to get Ethier before March 23rd.

 

If they couldn't afford Fowler or anyone over $10M AAV, I can't see them landing him.

If we get an upgrade in the outfield before the start of the season, this is still a really good off season. If we don't get an OF, then this off season is confusing and wasting another year of the core.

 

Indeed.

 

I, as well as others in this thread, don't mind not signing Fowler in particular.

Just, please, do something...

 

 

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 10:37 AM)
If they couldn't afford Fowler or anyone over $10M AAV, I can't see them landing him.

Dodgers will send some money.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 12:25 PM)
Technically, they didn't regain one of the picks they lost by signing other free agents.

 

That would be true if he signed elsewhere.

In case anybody was interested the banner on the site say Cubs tickets for on sale 2/26.

 

Wait til this year

 

#letsgo

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QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 10:33 AM)
Baltimore lost pick w/ Gallardo signing. Just means they don't move up in the 2nd.

I thought Gallardo didn't sign (failed physical). Or did they end up eventually signing him?

The fact that Fowler just signed for $8m and an option actually doesn't upset me as much as the 3/$33m deal that fell through did -- this choice was clearly about an opt-out. I get that Hahn didn't want to put Fowler back on the market after one season if it meant losing a prospect.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 12:31 PM)
Looks like Fowler is lying. No shock, always thought he was a goof

 

William Hirsch ‏@WilliamAHirsch 5m5 minutes ago

 

Adam Jones said he talked to Fowler and he was excited to report to Sarasota...but OK.

 

Pulling a DeAndre.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 01:41 PM)
I thought Gallardo didn't sign (failed physical). Or did they end up eventually signing him?

 

Restructured deal; 2/22 with an option.

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