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4/11 Game thread: @ Minnesota, 3:10pm, CSN/WLS

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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 01:33 PM)
The number being used ("over 3") is 3.57. 3.57 is definitely not 30% less than 4. You're also assuming that he never improves. (Since OP said he doesn't put up a season as good as 2014 Rollins even at full ceiling, and someone decided to make WAR the only stat being talked about)

 

Ok, well it definitely is still 15% less. And you could remove that line and still have all the same arguments. I would agree with the sentiment of the poster that Saladino has shown us literally nothing to indicate that he has a 4WAR season in him somewhere. It's possible he reaches 4WAR in the same way that it's possible that literally any player reaches 4WAR, which is in the instance that players sometimes miraculously get a lot better. One partial season of defensive data (that takes about three full seasons to become reliably predictive) does nothing to change that. OP's point is correct: even acknowledging Rollins' age and decline, it's far more likely that Rollins bounces back to a level he's reached several times in the past than it is that Saladino reaches a height several times higher than has been indicated by anything he's ever done.

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I like having Rollins. It's only the first week.

Just win, I'll be enjoying this broadcast from the twins stand point. I've taken my monthly allotment of Hawk and hope Jason Benetti gets the full time gig next year.

Oh great, c***ry Joe West on the crew for this series. Looks like he'll be behind plate tmr.

Isn't Quintana 0-0? Did I miss something? King of the no decision.

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It is amazing how much more popular Saladino became once the Sox got Rollins. Carlos Sanchez became popular as well. For that matter, some were even up in arms Tyler Flowers was gone. Keep in mind, with those guys in the line up, even though they did improve the defense drastically from the opening day line up, it didn't result in more wins.

The umps sure do love to extend the zone on Adam.

f*** YOU UMP. Robots. Jesus.

That 2-1 strike on Rollins was comical

So far half the pitches that were called strikes weren't even on the black, completely missed the zone.

Abreu's getting the good calls too. This is just absurd. Guess pitchers don't have to throw strikes.

Hopefully Q gets this strike zone too.

Should have been 3-0 to Jose. Ump missed three calls already. That call to Rollins was especially brutal.

As long as Q gets it, fine. It's 38 degrees and windy. They want to get out of there as soon as possible.

Gamecast had those wayyyyy outside

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 03:21 PM)
As long as Q gets it, fine. It's 38 degrees and windy. They want to get out of there as soon as possible.

 

See, this is the sort of BS that screams "robots". There is no adjusting the zone based on the temp. Come on.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 03:19 PM)
So far half the pitches that were called strikes weren't even on the black, completely missed the zone.

yes

 

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QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 03:22 PM)
See, this is the sort of BS that screams "robots". There is no adjusting the zone based on the temp. Come on.

At times you have to go up there hacking. If it is the same for both teams, it's not BS.

Quintana is not going to get the same zone.

Well, there goes the no-hitter.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 03:23 PM)
At times you have to go up there hacking. If it is the same for both teams, it's not BS.

 

Call the zone as it's defined in the rulebook.

Also, Quintana is not getting the zone lol.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 03:23 PM)
Quintana is not going to get the same zone.

If he doesn't, then it's BS. But if he does, they are just going to have to deal with it. I like Q's chances if he doesn't have to throw many strikes.

Of course he gets squeezed

Nice turn

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