harfman77 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 01:15 AM) Would think Gourriel/Gurriel will end up signing with the same team as his brother...probably the Yankees. The Yanks are in a tough position to make that happen with no apparent place for either to play. If they do sign as a pair, I think the Dodgers would be the favorite with holes in LF and at 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 FutureSox @FutureSox 45m45 minutes ago OF Luis Mieses linked with #WhiteSox in this report on J2 names: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 09:18 AM) FutureSox @FutureSox 45m45 minutes ago OF Luis Mieses linked with #WhiteSox in this report on J2 names: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 09:18 AM) FutureSox @FutureSox 45m45 minutes ago OF Luis Mieses linked with #WhiteSox in this report on J2 names: Ben Badler wrote about him. Here are some notes: Just turned 16. Left-Handed OF 6-4 185 pounds Standout offensive game: good swing, and ability to hit for big power shown in games Plus arm for RF Not much a runner and defense needs work $500,000.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 There was a Rick Hahn led conference call with season ticket holders and when asked about J2, Hahn said that the team is signing 9 players and that includes one 'big expenditure'. I've been scouring the Internet to did out who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 One With the gift of Laroche savings, they are signing one for big money. No wonder this org gets anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The last big signing, Adolfo...has kind of faded away from view. We don't even hear about him being considered for the Top 10 list anymore. Yes, it's a "lottery ticket" mechanism, and you hope that maybe 1 out of 20/25 turn into MLB All-Stars. Not sure if the ROI is there, not for small and middle market teams (unless their scouting is just top notch and their miss rate is lower). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 12:50 PM) The Yanks are in a tough position to make that happen with no apparent place for either to play. If they do sign as a pair, I think the Dodgers would be the favorite with holes in LF and at 3B. Have they given up on Turner? Really? The Dodgers still have Thompson, Kiki Hernandez, Van Slyke, Ethier, Pederson and Puig. I'm pretty sure despite the "loss" of Carl Crawford they can cover that position adequately. Doesn't mean they won't sign them. But I don't think the likes of Chase Headley or Brett Gardner/Teixeira/Beltran/A-Rod will stop the Yankees from making a move, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 05:19 PM) There was a Rick Hahn led conference call with season ticket holders and when asked about J2, Hahn said that the team is signing 9 players and that includes one 'big expenditure'. I've been scouring the Internet to did out who they are. There is indeed a big one on the horizon. Don't know who it is, but know it's a big one. QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 06:14 PM) The last big signing, Adolfo...has kind of faded away from view. We don't even hear about him being considered for the Top 10 list anymore. Yes, it's a "lottery ticket" mechanism, and you hope that maybe 1 out of 20/25 turn into MLB All-Stars. Not sure if the ROI is there, not for small and middle market teams (unless their scouting is just top notch and their miss rate is lower). That would be due to injuries more than anything else. If healthy, he'd have the highest ceiling in the system outside of Hansen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Why would he have a higher ceiling than Hawkins, though? Both are not close to five tool players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 06:27 PM) Why would he have a higher ceiling than Hawkins, though? Both are not close to five tool players. Because Micker...has potential as a 5 tool. The only tool people think wouldn't pan out is speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 There is indeed a big one on the horizon. Don't know who it is, but know it's a big one. Would a guy like Mieses for 500K qualify as that big expenditure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 05:27 PM) Why would he have a higher ceiling than Hawkins, though? Both are not close to five tool players. What a strange post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 05:33 PM) Would a guy like Mieses for 500K qualify as that big expenditure? Seeing what they spent on Reyes and Adolfo over the past few years, I would be surprised if that was the big one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 05:33 PM) Would a guy like Mieses for 500K qualify as that big expenditure? I really hope he doesn't qualify as the big signing. Assuming we use our full pool, that would leave about $300k/per for the remaining eight signings. Not there's enough of a difference there to call Mieses a big expenditure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) I really hope he doesn't qualify as the big signing. Assuming we use our full pool, that would leave about $300k/per for the remaining eight signings. Not there's enough of a difference there to call Mieses a big expenditure. The dollars will always skew towards the top two or three guys. The last half of the guys will probably be under 100k each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 08:32 PM) The dollars will always skew towards the top two or three guys. The last half of the guys will probably be under 100k each. You're right, which just furthers my point. You aren't going to call a $500k guy a substantial signing if you also signed a guy for $400k or $450k. My guess is we signed one guy closer to $1M, two around $500, and spread the remaining $1M across six players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 09:02 PM) You're right, which just furthers my point. You aren't going to call a $500k guy a substantial signing if you also signed a guy for $400k or $450k. My guess is we signed one guy closer to $1M, two around $500, and spread the remaining $1M across six players. Makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 05:14 PM) The last big signing, Adolfo...has kind of faded away from view. We don't even hear about him being considered for the Top 10 list anymore. Yes, it's a "lottery ticket" mechanism, and you hope that maybe 1 out of 20/25 turn into MLB All-Stars. Not sure if the ROI is there, not for small and middle market teams (unless their scouting is just top notch and their miss rate is lower). Most of you guys still have Adolfo on your top 10 lists, which blows my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 09:46 PM) Most of you guys still have Adolfo on your top 10 lists, which blows my mind. He has, by far, the most power potential in the entire system, along with the highest potential arm in RF. That carries some weight in the post steroid era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 10:46 PM) Most of you guys still have Adolfo on your top 10 lists, which blows my mind. He fell off mine due to injury, but potential is still insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hopefully there's some great 19/20/21 year olds theys plan on signing. Some of that may make an impact a little quicker than the 16 year olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 07:00 AM) Hopefully there's some great 19/20/21 year olds theys plan on signing. Some of that may make an impact a little quicker than the 16 year olds. Pretty doubtful. The talent is almost all off of the island by that age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 07:00 AM) Hopefully there's some great 19/20/21 year olds theys plan on signing. Some of that may make an impact a little quicker than the 16 year olds. Long term investment. Apparently there is a flood of international guys finally hitting Arizona. Might hear from some of them in 2-3 years. But once you get that pipeline flowing, Sox should have several at each level and should substantially strengthen the farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Has Lazarito signed yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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