June 4, 20169 yr Heyman not hinting at anything of value going to Pads... Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 38s39 seconds ago Shields will lengthen chisox rotation, padres get $ relief once finalized. @BNightengale @Ken_Rosenthal @sdutdennislin on it
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) I'm not going to feel good about this unless the Sox give up next to nothing. Shields is showing a lot of signs that he's cooked. If his last start wasn't as bad as it was, would you be saying that? He had a bad start. It happens. Every other game this season that he's pitched, he's always less than 4 runs with the exception of two (four each game). Is he the same pitcher he was 3 years ago? Obviously not. No one gets younger, but "cooked" is harsh.
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) If his last start wasn't as bad as it was, would you be saying that? He had a bad start. It happens. Every other game this season that he's pitched, he's always less than 4 runs with the exception of two (four each game). Is he the same pitcher he was 3 years ago? Obviously not. No one gets younger, but "cooked" is harsh. His ERA was actually 3.06 before his last start.
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) His ERA was actually 3.06 before his last start. But his FIP was drastically worse
June 4, 20169 yr whitesoxdave @barstoolWSD 4m4 minutes ago Chicago, IL Was told from a #source that Jon Jay may also be included in the Shields ➡️ ChiSox deal to help offset some cost #WhiteSox
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) His ERA was actually 3.06 before his last start. Which is why I said before his last start, no one would have said he's cooked.
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:05 PM) Well Jon Jay would certainly be an upgrade over Shuck and Avi. Platoon him with Jackson moving Jackson to backup OF most of the time.
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) I hope Avisail is a Padre, quite frankly. I could see him going the other way. A young project with control. Seems like the kind of guy that seems right for a deal like this. Edited June 4, 20169 yr by soxfan2014
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) I hope Avisail is a Padre, quite frankly. Probably would be better to be part of a trade for a hitter
June 4, 20169 yr Yeah, Eaton/Jackson/Cabrera/Garcia/Shuck/Sands/Coats/Jay... something's gotta give there and my hope is it's Sands and Garcia
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:09 PM) Which is why I said before his last start, no one would have said he's cooked. Read the first few pages of this thread, many posters were against the idea
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:09 PM) Platoon him with Jackson moving Jackson to backup OF most of the time. Honestly if he hits better then Jackson and can play adequate cf I would have jay starting most of the time
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) Honestly if he hits better then Jackson and can play adequate cf I would have jay starting most of the time Yeah...and the left handed part of a platoon does that.
June 4, 20169 yr If Sox get jay he's putting up a 1.1 war vs Jackson at .1 according to baseball reference. Would think jay replaces jackson
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) How's Jay's defense? I see some conflicting stats on it Probably same as Jackson right now.
June 4, 20169 yr Jackson's coming around as a hitter now, I don't think "replacing" him is the best idea
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) If Jay is included I see him in left at times with Melky moving to DH Could see him replacing Jackson and Sox still going to get a LH hitter for dh
June 4, 20169 yr Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 40s41 seconds ago Padres, chisox have agreed on the principals of shields deal, with only details to go
June 4, 20169 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:18 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 40s41 seconds ago Padres, chisox have agreed on the principals of shields deal, with only details to go Probably going to need to be approved by commissioner since money might be involved
June 4, 20169 yr I kind of really hope Jay is in the deal, I think he would fit perfectly with this team
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