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6/4 - White Sox @ Tigers Game Thread

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Chris Sale vs AL Central: 28-26, vs Cle 4.07 ERA .254 BAA, vs Det 3.02 ERA .223 BAA, vs KC 2.82 ERA .278 BAA, vs MIN 4.05 ERA .252 BAA.

Now Chris Sale is a hell of a pitcher in this league (top 3-5 for sure) but he comes up short in the big games against the division rivals.

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QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:31 PM)
I'm willing to guarantee if that was about any other player on this team, you would have jumped on the train & agreed with me. Your obsession with Sale is getting a bit weird, man. lol

No, I would've said the exact same thing. Predicting postseason success/failure for players that've never had the chance is just dumb.

this team needs a priest...

Albers....bro...

Yeah, forgot Eaton wasn't in CF.

 

Now Albers hurt in slippery conditions.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 06:32 PM)
Chris Sale vs AL Central: 28-26, vs Cle 4.07 ERA .254 BAA, vs Det 3.02 ERA .223 BAA, vs KC 2.82 ERA .278 BAA, vs MIN 4.05 ERA .252 BAA.

Now Chris Sale is a hell of a pitcher in this league (top 3-5 for sure) but he comes up short in the big games against the division rivals.

His career ERA is 2.86 overall and the numbers there put it at around 3.55 ish for the AL Central?

 

That's not top 5 in baseball but its not what I'd call "coming up short" against the Central, that's still above average.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 03:33 PM)
No, I would've said the exact same thing. Predicting postseason success/failure for players that've never had the chance is just dumb.

 

How would you have said the same exact thing when you just got done saying if the Sox lose today, they aren't a playoff team? Aren't you doing the same exact thing & projection a group's success w/ "just a feeling"?

 

 

Martinez 5/12 against Albers.

Not going to matter since Sale will never pitch in the postseason for the Sox.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:30 PM)
JB Shuck FFS

 

He's just not a CF. That's on Robin.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:34 PM)
Yeah, forgot Eaton wasn't in CF.

 

Now Albers hurt in slippery conditions.

 

Albers isnt hurt

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 06:35 PM)
His career ERA is 2.86 overall and the numbers there put it at around 3.55 ish for the AL Central?

 

That's not top 5 in baseball but its not what I'd call "coming up short" against the Central, that's still above average.

Jose's career ERA is 3.35, but against the Central 2.71 Cle, 4.02 against Det, 4.34 KCR, 3.83 MIN. That totals up to being about 0.5 runs higher than his career average against the Central also. Similar to Sale's career/Division difference.

 

I'm now wondering if part of this isn't "Familiarity with the pitcher" plus "team tries to push the starting pitcher as hard as they can against division opponents" combination, but that's an interesting note.

Ok, surprise us with a few runs here...

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:36 PM)
He's just not a CF. That's on Robin.

He's also not a #5 hitter, which is on Robin as well. Good thing that won't come to bite is in the ass this inning.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:35 PM)
His career ERA is 2.86 overall and the numbers there put it at around 3.55 ish for the AL Central?

 

That's not top 5 in baseball but its not what I'd call "coming up short" against the Central, that's still above average.

 

And if you look season by season against the Twins and Indians where he has the worst numbers it isn't like there is a trend. He sucked against the Twins last year but he has been good against them aside from that. He sucked against the Indians in 2013 but dominated them in 2012, 2014 and 2015.

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QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:36 PM)
How would you have said the same exact thing when you just got done saying if the Sox lose today, they aren't a playoff team? Aren't you doing the same exact thing & projection a group's success w/ "just a feeling"?

I never said the Sox would fail as a team if they got to the playoffs, I simply that that this isn't a playoff caliber team if they couldn't win this game. It's 2 separate ideas, though I can see where you're coming from.

Sands needs to rip a double right here!

If you have to pinch hit for your 5th hitter, he shouldn't be batting 5th.

Holy s***. DFA for the love of god.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:41 PM)
Sands needs to rip a double right here!

 

Sorta

fitting

#ShieldsForDH

What a day it would be to wake up and find out the entire coaching staff and front office was terminated

Would like to say that's the death knell for Sands but maybe not with Shuck and a possibly injured Coats behind him.

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