drowninginflame Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I don't know if this idea has been brought up, but Ozzie managing the All Star game could turn out to be a really good thing. Alot of the guys in the clubhouse got a first hand look of what it's like to play for the Sox considering Guillen and the whole staff were in Pittsburg. You sometimes hear players of really wanting to go play for a certain coach because they like their style. Even Jeter said Ozzie was the polar opposite of Torre. Hopefully, this makes a few free agents in the future consider us moreso than our hopeful dynasty in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Fair point, but it's usually all about the benjamins. In fact it's almost always about the benjamins, though Paulie did give up an extra million to stay in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 QUOTE(greg775 @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 04:01 AM) Fair point, but it's usually all about the benjamins. In fact it's almost always about the benjamins, though Paulie did give up an extra million to stay in Chicago. wasnt it an extra 5 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I think this is a VERY valid point. Playing for a manager you enjoy makes the entire thing so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuck the Cubs Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 wasnt it an extra 5 mil? over 5 years. So you're both right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(greg775 @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 04:01 AM) Fair point, but it's usually all about the benjamins. In fact it's almost always about the benjamins, though Paulie did give up an extra million to stay in Chicago. And Dye. And before he was with the team or we were a top franchise. Edited July 12, 2006 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Let's hope so...but it could hurt too. Some players might not want to be thrown under the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 11:17 PM) Let's hope so...but it could hurt too. Some players might not want to be thrown under the bus. Do we really want thin skinned players though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 09:12 PM) over 5 years. So you're both right. And yet, all 3 of you are wrong, as both California and Maryland have higher upper class tax rates than Illinois, to the point that Paulie's take home pay after Taxes will wind up being higher from him having taken the $60 million from the Sox than it would have been had he taken either the $65 from the O's or the $60 from the Halos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 10:58 AM) And yet, all 3 of you are wrong, as both California and Maryland have higher upper class tax rates than Illinois, to the point that Paulie's take home pay after Taxes will wind up being higher from him having taken the $60 million from the Sox than it would have been had he taken either the $65 from the O's or the $60 from the Halos. well then wouldnt that matter where he resides then? If he kept his residence in Chicago would he have to pay out of state taxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Not to be politically incorrect, but I think the best way we'll benefit with free agents in the future is in regards to Latino players who want to play for Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 03:09 PM) well then wouldnt that matter where he resides then? If he kept his residence in Chicago would he have to pay out of state taxes You pay state taxes in the state you are paid from. California maxes at 9.3%, Maryland at 4.75%, and Illinois at 3%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 QUOTE(greg775 @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 11:01 PM) Fair point, but it's usually all about the benjamins. In fact it's almost always about the benjamins, though Paulie did give up an extra million to stay in Chicago. Its all about the benjamins alright...but...they also want to play for a winner....so maybe a first hand glimpse of Ozzie in action, will allow some players to give the Sox more of a shot at signing them...plus he guided us to a WS Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I think Ozzie's impact will mainly be on latin players. Ivan acted like his best friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguy79 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 03:17 PM) You pay state taxes in the state you are paid from. California maxes at 9.3%, Maryland at 4.75%, and Illinois at 3%. Actually that is not true. You pay in the state where the income was earned so on road games you could be charged by that state. Shaq paid something like $1mm to another state. States have wisened up to this and charge visiting teams players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObamaKnowsBest Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 10:33 PM) I don't know if this idea has been brought up, but Ozzie managing the All Star game could turn out to be a really good thing. Well what exactly would have been bad about Ozzie managing the team.....It's pretty common knowledge that players like him it is the snob media who tend to take things too seriuosly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(chiguy79 @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 08:18 PM) Actually that is not true. You pay in the state where the income was earned so on road games you could be charged by that state. Shaq paid something like $1mm to another state. States have wisened up to this and charge visiting teams players. You could be. But it's not happening in MLB yet. They (players) do agree to have a prorated amount taken from them for such situations, but presently this is not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(chiguy79 @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 08:18 PM) Actually that is not true. You pay in the state where the income was earned so on road games you could be charged by that state. Shaq paid something like $1mm to another state. States have wisened up to this and charge visiting teams players. Really? I've never heard that. Freakin' pols! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(mreye @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 09:08 AM) Really? I've never heard that. Freakin' pols! You and I both deal with that everyday working in IL and living in IN we have to file both returns. Its the same idea except spread out over every city(and state) in MLB. When you play a game in a city, you are considered to be "working" in that state during that time, and they want their cut, just like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 09:57 AM) You and I both deal with that everyday working in IL and living in IN we have to file both returns. Its the same idea except spread out over every city(and state) in MLB. When you play a game in a city, you are considered to be "working" in that state during that time, and they want their cut, just like everyone else. But, if my company sends me to NY for training or whatever, I don't have to pay NY taxes. That would be the same. Working for an Illinois company and living in Indiana is not the same. Edited July 13, 2006 by mreye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(mreye @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 11:47 AM) But, if my company sends me to NY for training or whatever, I don't have to pay NY taxes. That would be the same. Working for an Illinois company and living in Indiana is not the same. Exactly. I've been to agents outside of Illinois to set up their accounting systems and not paid other states taxes even though the company outside of Illinois has paid my salary for the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innersanctum Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 10:58 AM) And yet, all 3 of you are wrong, as both California and Maryland have higher upper class tax rates than Illinois, to the point that Paulie's take home pay after Taxes will wind up being higher from him having taken the $60 million from the Sox than it would have been had he taken either the $65 from the O's or the $60 from the Halos. And the misinformation grows and grows. The players have to pay taxes in each state that they play games in based on a per game rate. So if Paulie played 84 games in Illinois, 12 games in CA, 22 games in Ohio, and so on, he would have to pay taxes on $74,074 per game under each state's taxable income laws. Just because a player resides in a certain state doesn't mean that state gets to collect all his taxes. they can only collect taxes on the games he has played in that state. And there are reasons why they do that. If you were the Royals, would you want to collect taxes on just the Royals (forget the Cardinals for a minute)? How much better would you feel if you got to collect taxes from the Yankees salary 3-4 times a year and the White Sox another 9-10 times a year. Each state gets their cut on the bigger pies too that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(innersanctum @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 01:31 PM) And the misinformation grows and grows. The players have to pay taxes in each state that they play games in based on a per game rate. So if Paulie played 84 games in Illinois, 12 games in CA, 22 games in Ohio, and so on, he would have to pay taxes on $74,074 per game under each state's taxable income laws. Just because a player resides in a certain state doesn't mean that state gets to collect all his taxes. they can only collect taxes on the games he has played in that state. And there are reasons why they do that. If you were the Royals, would you want to collect taxes on just the Royals (forget the Cardinals for a minute)? How much better would you feel if you got to collect taxes from the Yankees salary 3-4 times a year and the White Sox another 9-10 times a year. Each state gets their cut on the bigger pies too that way. Yay!!! The condescending explanation has arrived.. So this has started? I know they have been paying into a "pool" per se since 1999. But didn't know it was ever put into action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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