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I've been saying for a year on the podcast that Grant Taylor would be given the chance to start. Was always going to happen.

Exactly what I said a few weeks ago. He's on the Grant Taylor plan. I just thought Taylor might be the closer for another year.

If you want to compete as a real playoff team, Sean Burke can't be your #1 or #2. I would hope we aren't getting high on our own supply with our own guys here, but look at the dudes at the front of the rotations of the teams that made it. We can always aim for backdooring our way in again and praying we get irrationally hot, but that's not very realistic.

Seems fairly obvious that Hagen is 2026 Taylor and will move into that highest leverage spot / closer on a night by night basis. Getz also said bullpen is low priority, thank god, another big difference from Hahn, who would blow his limited budget on fungible, volatile relievers seemingly every offseason.

Also interested in seeing what the plans are for Schultz (starting?) and Sandlin. Sandlin was inconsistent but he had some great starts; there might be something there. Schultz, to me, pitched better than his ERA and WAR (certainly bwar, but fwar too). And Cannon - they may not protect him but I hope they do. He pitched well (after a bouncy first inning) in pretty much his only major league appearance. I'd like to see them try him in short relief. Might be able to up the mph.

It shouldn’t be an albatross. Our payroll is still miniscule and this isn’t a bit arb year either. They should go out and spend (wisely) regardless.

Seems like the late deadline prices really jumped

Yep. But the prices I've seen are are so high that they based not only on the certainty that he has figured something out, but that he's also better than his best year. The price is higher than we got for Crochet. Now if it were, say, a price that we charged the Padres for Cease, then it's worth a long look. But if he has figured it out, sign him in 2 years.

Yeah you definitely need to get one of these guys. Instead of adding 2 SP now go out and add one and use the money not being used for another SP towards a closer.

Makes sense. Start him or trade him.

I was hoping it would be for a 2nd. The Vikings were truly desperate. There really weren't many good options for them. It's hard to bring a QB in mid-season and have them understand the system. Kirk already knows it and he's way better than Daniel Jones.

Disagree that a #1 and #2 are needed this off-season. One guy near the top to go along with Burke is fine to start the season. There are plenty of guys who can compete for the middle and back end of the rotation and some have upside. Adding a Peralta or King caliber pitcher is enough to head into the season with, in my opinion. See what you have and add at the deadline if you're in the hunt and need another TOR arm. Having said that, if they DID add two top guys, I'd be ecstatic. Just don't think it's a total necessity.

This fucking division.

After last night, the Vikings ability to dictate trade terms is diminished greatly

Jefferson is gonna go off now. Vikings are better for sure, but Kirk Cousins ain't winning them a Super Bowl.

Wow. Now THATs an overpay.

I think they "add" but they play no where near the high end of the market place, despite the massive need for an actual #1 and #2 starter.

The poster didn’t say he didn’t think they would add. He said “it feels like a cost cutting move to make a big move for one.” Which I kinda feel the same way.

Cousins to Vikings for a 3rd rounder

What happened to Kyler Murray? Did the league catch up to him or did he just lose “it” with the injuries and COD

Getz says they are looking for starters on the market or via free agency.

If Nagy can make the guy who was unplayable under you look good, it's a you problem.

Him doing the lap before his rookie qb too on how orgs fail young QBs and then doing - by far - the worst fail job on any 2024 qb cannot be criticized enough. 1000x cockier than anything Ben Johnson has done. Gotta credit nagy. It seemed embarrassing how KC's offense looked after he took over, but clearly it was not just him. Now he's doing a pretty damn good job .

I think you are going to be very disappointed when you see who they actually wind up with if you think Skubal is even in the realm of possibilities. This same team probably thought Castillo was a TOR starter.

To be fair, Wentz made Kyler look really good last night lol.