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Now if we moved someone like Hicks or Gonzalez of even traded a Meidroth for a different need I am fine as long as it wasn’t a short sighted move.

I’m staying put but would he fine with long term buys for just good value moves or even swapping players for fits. Im patient and now isn’t time to panic or aggressively buy.

I noticed he wasn't in the dugout in the last few innings of today's game.

Some good stuff from Fegan via SoxMachine. Updates come from Janish. McDougall will finish the year in a relief role and be on the big league team when he’d adapted to reliever life Hagen Smith will likely mirror McDougal but that’s not for sure yet. Said he feels good Thorpe is back throwing, but may not reach the bigs this season bc of appendectomy. S. Smith is on a good trajectory. Billy Carlson will start a rehab in Arizona on Saturday.

I am fine staying put unless you are trading a vet like Beni or Grichuk or Hicks. Or buying a pitcher with at least another year of control

I disagree. Not at 33. We’d be paying for current performance as he hits the wall. I can’t imagine him not going to free agency. Although in hindsight, this would have been a better idea than giving Ser Loser $20 million guaranteed.

Oh geez! We got swept by a pretty hot BoSox and you're ready to sell sell sell! When I saw who The BoSox were throwing at us in the1st 2 games, I knew we were in trouble. Can we at least get Muni back before panicking?

Yeah I think you have to considering his age and the success he’s had/having. Rough one for Pierce George in an otherwise very promising season. McDougall had a nice inning in relief of Cannon. No baserunners and a K in one inning.

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I’d be looking to extend Newcomb rather than trade him.

Unfortunately for your dream, you actually participate in conversation and don’t just do just drive-by s%*# posts like the goob. Despite your PCA man crush you are safe.

You need a stay put option.

There is nobody even worth selling except for Newcomb and potentially Hicks if you can find a sucker to take him. Maybe Grichuk. Everyone else is part of what they are building.

We've all been talking about adding to this team so we can compete. The team started hot and were fun as hell to watch. However, the recent play by the team was a b**** smack back to reality. We've got some nice pieces, but are we ready to compete? I'm not so sure. Is the smart play to sell some players to acquire talent that will help in a year or two? We haven't been great at developing starters. Should we sell our bullpen pieces for more talent? Taylor could potentially fetch a haul. Newcombe has been dy-no-mite. Hudson has been solid. Hicks looks FILTHY and is building his value daily. Do we sell off our bullpen for pieces that will help in the next couple seasons? I'm leaning towards yes.

Forgot about that thing. It did earn a Wikipedia page though… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Spire

Another day, another double and a BB. .930 OPS. 5.8 fWAR nearing the All-Star break. Insanity.

Hard to do that with Bonemer's more limited defensive tools/speed/arm...

And now the Red Sox Twins Tigers in the "don't trade/holding" group with the possible exception of Skubal...if they're blown out of the water with an offer. Marlins are much less likely to move players as well now.

I’m jealous. I’m going to mention PCA even more now to get on your prestigious list.

Agreed. No one expected this so it’s a nice treat but I doubt anyone thinks this team will go deep into the playoffs if they make it. Their rotation is weak but they can’t mortgage the future for a chance to chase an unrealistic WS this year.

Exactly. Without even looking at teams outside of Chicago, we have two teams here that are in the running for the postseason and are absolutely desperate for starting pitching. Starting pitching is going to be expensive as hell this trade deadline.

I think you’re gonna be in for a surprise once Detmers is traded.

Exactly. Hagen Smith is walking 6.23 batters per 9 innings in AAA. Anyone want to see how many batters he would walk in the majors right now? Dude would get his s%*# pushed in. I wouldn’t make that proposed trade but Hagen Smith wouldn’t be an improvement to the rotation this season like Detmers would be. Afterall, we are already seeing the rookie struggles with Noah Schultz

Yes, detmers is much better today than Hagen Smith.

Why are we so quick to sell the farm this season? Why give up a potential 20 HR, perennial gold glove shortstop (#60 prospect in baseball) for a guy with a career 4.7 ERA and 2 years left of control? It's just not good value by any standard. Now this is wild. Two top 100 prospects for a 5th starter/swingman. Why are we so keen on jettisoning talent from the system? The Sox are not one 'meh' pitcher away from being a WS contender. Is Detmers even better, today, than Hagen Smith? It's not like I hate the idea of trading for Detmers, but it takes guys like Jeral Perez and Mathias LaCombe to get it done not our previous two first round picks.