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Shades of when we drafted him…

As a Sox fan who has seen a lot of these "turned the corner" guys turn out to just be flukes in a career year, I am not ready to proclaim them fixed.

Hagen and McDougal are supposed to be in the bullpen later this year. Adams seems to be the best plug-n-play option for a team selling off for "near MLB ready" talent.

TIME TO SHINE BOYS! I DONT WANT ONE WIN TODAY, I WANT THEM TO TAKE THE NEXT TWO AND THEN KEEP ROLLING IN TAMPA BAY. GO TIME!!!!

This would be the best outcome but given how much competition there is for starting pitchers, I’ll be shocked if we get both without a massive overpay.

Bingo. Most likely outcome 100%.

Or they’ll just hold onto him for the offseason, for next years deadline, or to evaluate again after the 27 season as a whole. They have no motivation… zero… to “concede” anything.

At least the foodie fuckers had imagination and creativity. 😆

Operation douche bag, cooked.

I think the mechanic considerations they are working with when running him out there as a starter are different when he is not attempting to extend to a starters workload. In his relief appearances he has looked like a completely different kid. Limited walks, higher strikeout rates, and I don’t think he’s even given up a run.

Montgomery has to be damn near untouchable. I don't even like the idea of trading Bonemer, but at least he plays a position where the Sox are heavy on prospects.

Go get Holmes & Ray. That won't cost you a Bonemer, Smith or Carlson. Rotation: Burke/Martin/Ray/Holmes/Kay Fedde to the bullpen

Martin, Kay and Burke are locks for the rotation next year. We have Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Thorpe, Adams, Schultz, Sandlin, McDougal in the wings. I have to imagine at least 3 of those guys are dealt. Eventually, won't you run into a 40 man crunch or have to keep them in AAA?

The Angels are so far away that they should focus on getting the most talent back regardless of where they are in the minors. Then again, it’s the Angels. Wouldn’t surprise me if they wanted guys to plug into their lineup right away.

Davis better bring it today

Urquidy is nothing but depth. He was DFAed and acquired for a DSL relief prospect…he is not part of the major league plan. Disagree on this.

Yep, especially if next 5 games before deadline don’t go well

Pedro Ramirez or Matt Shaw beats Carlson as headliner

If these are the rumored prices, I wouldn’t be shocked if Getz settles for an expiring contract starter and Urquidy, along with a decent catcher, and I can’t say he should be blamed if that is the end result of the deadline.

We should consider doing one of both…a controllable SP and a rental SP with a big contract whose salary will weigh down the prospect cost.

I don't know. Angels never trade guys and dudes like this with 2.5 years of control don't often move due to asking price. I've heard they asked the Cubs for Hartshorn and Ben Brown. Bonemer or Braden Montgomery plus

They won’t get a Bonemer level talent for Detmers. I’m sure they’re asking, but at some point they will concede to market value.

5 days to go and not only has nothing of substance really happened leaguewide, but there hasn't even been many legit rumors. I suppose this is a function of the new reality that there are less known sellers with the expanded playoffs.

I think Carlson is about as good as a headliner that Detmers will command. After that it’s hard to say, but Quero is a post hype former top 100 guy and Adams is a major league ready SP who is 26 years old and lacks ceiling. To me it feels about right and the fact people here see at being too much & too little suggests it may not be too far off.