December 3, 201312 yr http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/rays...an-hanigan.html 2:01pm: Jose Lobaton could be going to the White Sox in the deal, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (via Twitter) hears. Edited February 13, 201412 yr by southsider2k5
December 3, 201312 yr Author QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:12 PM) It would be separate to the Hanigan deal. Does seem weird. That would make it a FOUR team deal. And no talks about the WS contributing anything so far. Strangely, it appears as though the Rays will be assuming almost all of Bell's salary, which is, needless to say, VERY not like the Rays. Would be interesting if the Rays are sending Lobaton to us in exchange for cash to pay Bell.
December 3, 201312 yr all I remember about him was hitting a massive bomb into the Ray tank last season to win a game
December 3, 201312 yr Well, he was .246/.330/.406 in 198 PA vs RHP last year. Not exciting but Flowers was .213/.268/.393 in 198 PA vs RHP and Phegley was .190/.213/.266 in 166 PA vs RHP so it's definitely an upgrade.
December 3, 201312 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:16 PM) Well, he was .246/.330/.406 in 198 PA vs RHP last year. Not exciting but Flowers was .213/.268/.393 in 198 PA vs RHP and Phegley was .190/.213/.266 in 166 PA vs RHP so it's definitely an upgrade. Yeah, Lobaton wasn't bad last year. He was definitely better than our catchers last year, by a long shot. Edited December 3, 201312 yr by chw42
December 3, 201312 yr He is 30 years old and has been ok, Maddon most likely used him properly, the White Sox will not, so I figure he will end up hitting about .180 next year.
December 3, 201312 yr It's funny because as mediocre as Lobaton is, the 1.4 WAR in 100 games is infinitely better than what we got from our catching tandem last year. That's pretty sad to realize.
December 3, 201312 yr Throwing out 14% of base stealers is far worse than what we already have! Let's hope the rays pitching played a part in that! http://m.bbref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXlXXlobat...andard_fielding
December 3, 201312 yr I honestly wouldn't mind a Lobaton/Flowers platoon with the ABs being split almost equal. Definitely an upgrade over last year.
December 3, 201312 yr QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 03:22 PM) He is 30 years old and has been ok, Maddon most likely used him properly, the White Sox will not, so I figure he will end up hitting about .180 next year. Jeff Kepp 2.0
December 3, 201312 yr I want better than Lobaton. I think we all do, but I don't know if that's possible, at least for 2014. It's an upgrade over what we have, so let's be thankful for that.
December 3, 201312 yr Author Anyone seeing anything else on Twitter to confirm this? Nothing else showing up on MLBTR
December 3, 201312 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) I want better than Lobaton. I don't think it's out of the question that Flowers ends up traded, and Phegley goes to Charlotte. PLenty of time.
December 3, 201312 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:27 PM) Anyone seeing anything else on Twitter to confirm this? Nothing else showing up on MLBTR The only legit place I saw it is the Rays beat writer mentioning it as a maybe Marc Topkin @TBTimes_Rays 28m Reports and rumors of #Rays moves keep swirling. Just heard Lobaton could be going to #whitesox, tho not confirmed.
December 3, 201312 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:27 PM) I don't think it's out of the question that Flowers ends up traded, and Phegley goes to Charlotte. PLenty of time. There isn't much else for Phegley to prove in Charlotte. Flowers gets dealt. Lobaton and Phegley split time in Chicago.
December 3, 201312 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:30 PM) There isn't much else for Phegley to prove in Charlotte. Flowers gets dealt. Lobaton and Phegley split time in Chicago. Trade Lobaton to the Royals to back up Sal Perez for a possible bullpen arm and we start Phegs. Lobaton will assure me not buying the MLB package this year. It's like we are trying to lose games rather than spend some money and make a splash and win. Chicago is a big market city. Time to win again. Edited December 3, 201312 yr by greg775
December 3, 201312 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:32 PM) Trade Lobaton to the Royals to back up Sal Perez for a possible bullpen arm and we start Phegs. Lobaton will assure me not buying the MLB package this year. It's like we are trying to lose games rather than spend some money and make a splash and win. Chicago is a big market city. Time to win again. It's called rebuilding.
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