WestEddy

Why do you need me to sum this up? Are you disputing that people around the industry have bought into his vision and have come aboard?

Your question was when can we say that this is the team he assembled. I said now. You can say that anytime you want. I said nothing about judgement. Certainly not after 10 games. In a rebuild year. So I'm not sure how I "seem" to be saying he should be judged on it now. Yes, there were moves that didn't work out. Bailey Horn for Matt Thompson was inconsequential. He's had too many moves that don't matter, that will have to start falling as clear wins. It would have been great if Dominic Fletcher even developed as the strong end of a platoon. He didn't. Here, I'll play your game: You seem to be implying that Getz inherited a very strong roster with an unlimited budget, but he made everybody get hurt or play bad. Why are you defending that notion? Reinsdorf spent when the team was close to competing, which they aren't, right now. Are you saying that Reinsdorf forced Hahn to spend all his money on relievers, and to trade 2 future All-Stars for the right to watch Samardzija suck, then walk away in free agency? When do we get to stop hearing about Rick and Kenny? How about when the albatross players they signed or drafted 1-4 aren't corner pieces of the team anymore? Or maybe we don't have to keep bringing up Rick and Kenny when we stop pretending that Chris Getz ran the entire organization when Kenny was the VP, Rick was the GM, and they both famously staged a tug of war over the direction of the org. I'll happily talk about Getz's bad moves. Trading Semien and Chris Bassit for Samardzija wasn't a bad Chris Getz move. Signing Benintendi to a 5 year contract, then making him suck for his first two years wasn't a bad Chris Getz move. Robert, Yoan and Eloy all getting injured 11 days into the 2024 season wasn't a bad Chris Getz move. Leaving a system with no starting pitching so that Getz had to convert Crochet to starter and sign an iffy Erik Fedde, and look around for other cheap starters wasn't a bad Chris Getz move. No, trading for Corey Julks off the waiver wire didn't add ten wins. Boo Chris Getz!! Conversely, a relief pitcher having 2 rough outings out of his first 5 isn't a bad Chris Getz move. Trying to get your $20M CF to produce so you can trade him, and getting yet another sub-.600 OPS performance from him isn't a bad Chris Getz move.

Why not? He seems to be selling a lot of industry people on his vision.

It's sad when people quote tweet a joke, trying to make a desperate point.

Number of HRs Crochet may ever hit with any MLB team: 0 Number of HRs Montgomery/Teel/Meidroth may ever hit with White Sox: I'd say 100-200 Sox win that trade hands down.

He gets years of runway because he's not even 2 years into this rebuild. Teams don't generally win 100 games in their first year of a rebuild. Look it up.

...Because the White Sox and Cubs both have an equal expectation to make a playoff run this year? You don't even try to make sense. No, Jankowski isn't Aaron Judge. He's AAAA depth, a 4th OF on a bad team. Are you somehow mistaking this year's White Sox team as one of the top teams in the game?

I answer this every time it's asked. Now. Everybody seems to forget Getz was left with a horrible roster, and pretty much zero pitching staff. Oh, and his budget was cut to nothing. A bunch of lesser trades of AAA bullpen arms for AAAA bullpen arms didn't work out. And he has to start having those work out. The Cease trade - the mob loves to acknowledge that JR probably forced that trade in ST to not pay Cease, then pretend that Getz forced JR to force him to make that trade. I don't even care about people criticizing moves. Just at least try to make sense.

All teams are "obsessed" with AAA depth.

So wait. Playing 37 games is beneath mention, but subbing in for about 5 games and starting 4 in a platoon is an indictment? LOL. That's ridiculous.

It's a special level of querulousness to look for minor league signings to be bothered about.

Dude, the house burned down. You're screaming because your shoes are getting dirty walking around in the ash. I'm unsure of what blame you want assigned to him. Blame for his budget getting cut? Blame for having zero starting pitchers to build a team with? Blame for inheriting 3 overpaid slugs who would be injured by game 11? Few of his moves worked out for the 2024 season. I acknowledge that every time you start this whole cycle of pretending the previous 20 conversations ever happened.

Nope, I got the point clearly. Getz was left a smoking crater, and had to rebuild from zero with no budget. Hahn was gifted a World Series winner, and couldn't keep the string going. I think KW was a micro-manager who messed up everything Hahn had lofty dreams of. KW traded Burger because he hated Hostetler. That's a crazy level of dysfunction. Getz has had one off-season and one draft, really.

Sure. Jankowski was on the team for 9 games. How much do you think he's set back the organization? Amaya's the best defensive SS in the upper levels. You're not complaining about things that are really a problem.

KW and Hahn were done. Y'all mock them for the fact that nobody has hired or even interviewed them since. Pick a lane. I've posted lists of the players Getz has developed that resulted in a 2-year run of playoff appearances. Go back and look them up before your dementia eviscerates your ability to navigate the internet.

Rude. Tell me about the glory days of Casper Wells and JB Shuck.

And they should have been undermined. If Getz got JR to move on from the chaos that was KW/Hahn, that's deserving of GM of the Year awards in perpetuity. 2024 was the direct result of KW/Hahn.

The White Sox still have to play their games. They would probably like to put a competitive team on the field. It's been mentioned multiple times that Maton is a LHH, and some RHPs just eat up the RHHs in our lineup. Maton has a little pop, and just as everyone wants to see "what they can do", maybe the Sox would like to see what Maton can do as a lefty bench/DH bat. Sosa had pronounced platoon splits last season. Sitting him against some tough righties is giving him every chance to excel.

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Birmingham proceeded to their league's playoffs on the back of their prospect-laden pitching rotation. That wasn't an accident. For now, we have a top 5 minor league system. I'm not sure what complaining about Sosa's playing time in the majors has to do with that. As we've discussed, there is a high rate of failure for minor league prospects. The key is to not rely on one player to save the major league team. The goal is to keep pumping SSs, CFs, catchers and prospect arms into the organization, so when one inevitably stumbles at a higher level (C. Montgomery), there are multiple options lined up behind him (Baldwin, Meidroth, Gonzalez, Bergolla, Jeral Perez, Caleb Bonemer). Sosa has started 6 of 9 games at 2B, Brooks Baldwin has started the other 3 games. I wouldn't call Baldwin a "veteran". Miguel Vargas has started every game at 3B, Sosa's other position. Again, Vargas isn't a veteran. 2 of the 3 games Sosa hasn't started, Robert and Benintendi were given a rest in the DH spot. Is that last paragraph supposed to make any sense?

Those who proclaim they see no signs of change completely ignore the farm system jumping to top 5, and two minor league teams playing in their league's championships last season.

Yeah, that just serves to make me angry, and I'm not even really angry about this. Everybody knows about Schultz and Smith.

Asst GM in Detroit resigns amid Lewd Photo allegations. Sam Menzin Resigns As Tigers' Assistant GM - MLB Trade Rumors I generally consider myself to be pretty dumb. I've told the odd, ill-advised joke at managers' meetings, and such, probably killing my career with my mouth. Sending dick pics to co-workers is so colossally stupid, I can't even comprehend how stupid or hateful a person has to be to embark on the first, let alone the fifth or sixth unsolicited dick pic to a co-worker.

Most of this isn't even defending him. "If a #22 pick put up 14 bWAR during his time with the Sox, that would be great." Who does that defend? "Either Fletcher was a bad trade acquisition who sucks and is no more than OF depth, or he's a budding major league talent who needs a full season of starts. Pick one." What is that defending?

Great. We'll circle round and compare notes in 20 years.