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No, Gonzalez is not old for his levels. He's just outside the top 120 or so because his tools arent loud enough for some and some are uncertain about him in CF (I think those uncertainties are unfounded). 22 at high A is not old. If he throws up an 860 OPS between AA and AAA this year you'll see him on every top 100 list. Guys like him are forced to prove it more because he's solid across the board but not great anywhere. Also, let's worry about one OF prospect proving they belong first before we fill out all positions prematurely. The Sox arent exactly a team that should be worried or consider themselves to have an embarrassment of riches at any position.

Yes on a good team that's what he would ideally be doing. A Marwin type. But its not a good team and theres zero problem with him starting. People begging for Rondon over yolmer is laughable.

Fair enough. Just further proves how absurd the anger towards yolmer is.

I didnt admit he was anything. I said he's not guaranteed to be a 2.5 WAR player but it's certainly within his most likely outcomes. If he's a 2.5 WAR player he's league average. 2 years ago he was 2.2 in like 135 games. He's not even one of the 3 worst starters on the team so this animosity towards him makes zero sense. He's actually one of the few guys on the team that would have a spot on nearly every team in baseball. The overwhelming negativity is by far this places biggest turn off. It's neverending. Go find another hobby or team if this one makes you so miserable. My goodness.

It's not really a sign. He's certainly capable of being a 2.5 WAR player and a starter this year if he plays well - it's certainly within his likely outcomes. An average MLB player. If he doesn't he's slightly below average. For a forum that ignorantly adores Daniel f'ing Palka to ridicule yolmer Sanchez is just laughable. They want at bats and opportunities for a guy who has no business being in a big league uniform yet they destroy Yolmer Sanchez. It's comical.

Not really, but people ripping on Yolmer are just a bunch of curmudgeons. Yolmer a great teammate, very good and versatile defender, and a potentially serviceable bat. He's a guy who should play 100 games at multiple positions spelling starters throughout the infield and coming in late for defense. Ripping on Yolmer just shows how negative and toxic this place is becoming.

Zzzzzzzzzz Based on this forums absurd views with tatis - the Astros are a shit organization for letting JD Martinez go for nothing. Sometimes, in baseball, the unexpected happens to a player. A GM's job is to evaluate players based on their most likely outcomes. I'm so tired of reading tatis nonsense on this forum. I hope the people who feel the need to continually update people on this get over it. I've already pointed out that since they started ranking international prospects, tatis is the first one ranked 30th to even make the big leagues. Shit happens. Move on. I dont sign into soxtalk to hear Padres updates. Enough is enough.

Alonso is almost 25. Not really the same thing. Don't think the mets were worried about having him for his age 32 seasons. Mets are trying to win a division.

Looks like rain should be out of there by 315. Just in time.

Come on pal. You're really reaching here. 1.75 million in baseball is absolutely nothing. Harping on this is b****ing just to b****.

Yeah preller liked him so much he didnt sign him for a little over a million 12 months earlier despite having pool space. Preller is an asshat and FOS.

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Basebe has some serious gonads - I think you are spot on there. He's one of those kids that you could throw in the big leagues today, and he could start 0-40 with 39k's and if you talked to him, he'd tell you he's ready to break through and he's figured it out. It's one of the reasons I really love Basebe - he has that desire to take on a challenge. I heard something about him after the futures game, where a teammate asked him if he realized how fast the pitch was he just turned around... and he told them, seemed like a regular fastball to me. Not sure how true the story is, but found it amusing.

Jimmy Lambert is must watch MiLB TV.

Glad you bumped this thread - I was looking for it the other day to see the response to this trade from many people in the.... HOW DO YOU TRADE TATIS CAMP after Tatis became something no one expected. Most everyone - with the exception of 3-4 posters, said giving up Tatis was no big deal. As I expected. Hindsight makes every fan a genius and great GM. Here's why a guy like Tatis should give the Sox hope, instead of doom. It shows that international prospect rankings for young guys are mostly bunk. There's more variance in their reliability than even regular college rankings which aren't reliable either. It shows the Sox can hit in that market without signing the best guy in the rankings.

I think the big concern with Tatis is the same one Yoan had/has. Tatis could break Yoan's k record this year if he plays enough. He has to improve his contact skills but he's certainly young enough to do it... but it's also one of the harder tools to improve on.

Oh noooo. Please don't.

Montas... this year's Jharel Cotton for the A's. Great spring, but won't mean much when the game starts and he can't throw strikes. Ironically they were both in the Rich Hill deal.

Yes. My view on this is always the same. Coming up early does not hurt a player, it merely exposes him for who he truly is. Adjustments are the name of the game in the MLB. Failure is also an inevitable outcome at some point as a player. How you adjust and deal with failure is what separates the stars from the nobodies. All accelerating a players path does is expose their ability, or lack their of, to adjust and evolve as a player. Moncada had nothing left to learn in the minors. He may not have dominated entirely but in order for him to take the next step he has to figure it out vs the best. Confidence matters but not as much as most think. Every baseball in the world will fail at some point. It doesnt really matter where it happens... what matters is how they adjust and bounce back. Whether that's in college, A ball, AAA or MLB doesnt matter. In fact, at the MLB level you'll at least have the most resources to figure it out.

This won't be popular, but enhanced development via illegal assistance possible? His father was a steroid user. It doesn't mean he is, and it's entirely possibly that he just continued to grow and mature and figured something out... but the kid got big, very quickly. Could be natural growth or maybe not.

Pitching is a little different. Only so many bullets in that arm and using them early and wearing them down if theyre ready is a good organizational philosophy. Paddack has already had one TJ too.

Why are you discussing something like this in a thread about Yolbert Sanchez? Couldnt you start another thread to voice your opinion about threads going in different directions?

it didnt get lost. He still got the notification. He chose to not respond on his own accord - not because of another discussion in the thread. Also, the discussion included sources and outside citations that were interesting reads as well. It was not an "I'm right youre wrong" discussion. Some may have done that, but others gave rational and educated view points as to why the had that opinion. Frequently, just as in real life, a topic can evolve from it's initial starting point. The point of entry was related to Yolbert but the conversation evolved - that's typically how conversations in real life and internet forums go.

I never understood this angle. It's a white Sox and baseball forum. The only people who view these things as arguments are those with closed minds. I post thoughts in hope of reciprocating equally valid and reasonable points from others in rebuttal. That is how you learn new things. It's not an argument, it's a discussion with counter viewpoints. Nothing more. The only people who view things like this on the internet as arguments are those who get angry and worked up by a random strangers comments, and those who have no desire to learn something new... I check in for the views of those who disagree with me. Not to have my thoughts and opinions reaffirmed by everyone. Nothing is gained from that.

I posted a link describing the immense amount of risk moncada had attached to him for a #1 prospect - compared to others.