Look at Ray Ray Run

Lol like watching a little league team throw the ball around the field. Just embarrassing.

Jack it's not even April. Chris sale was throwing 92 his first start. Is he finished? Velocity can be down early in the season for a lot of reasons, weather being one. Jones velocity has been depleted by about 200 injuries.

He may be finished. His fastball needs to sit high 90s to be effective.

Eloy going to adjust about as quickly as a hitter can with the slider attack. You can see it - trying to stay back and already seems to understand that's the plan of attack.

Bomb.

He was born in Illinois and pitched in cold weather frequently. Reynaldo Lopez is not from a cold place and probably has not spent a ton of time pitching in the cold. It certainly makes a difference.

It's also cold as hell. Velocity can be down with that.

Not superior to anyone - appreciate all thoughts and opinions. Have a good one, bud.

Bring him down? Jeeze. A lot of uptight people on soxtalk currently. Learn to have some fun.

The Sox were the leader in the clubhouse at that point. No one was telling you insider information at a 1 year olds birthday party in regards to the machado race. You released that information like 1 1/2 months before he signed and by all accounts the Sox were in front at that point. The Padres weren't even a threat at the time. Learn to laugh at yourself pal. The fake insider stuff is funny. Who cares?

Always my dude - enjoy our interactions. Have a good weekend with the family. Hopefully we can pull out a couple dubs.

Hi ron!

I'm not your guy, buddy.

Huh? It was a joke because of his fake insider stuff from that birthday party in the Machado thread. Just having some fun with the guy. Relax, take a step back and have a laugh pal. My goodness.

Aww, it said Ron responded to me but the post is gone. I love some Ron responses. Shame they deleted the post. I'm sure it was a doozy.

Oh, is that what you were told on Saturday at a 1 year olds birthday party again?

Yes, to say the average college player debuts at 23 years old is just incorrect. The average college junior is 21 years old - upon draft and graduation, the average junior will enter the minor leagues at 21-22 years old. The average college senior is 22, meaning they enter the player pool at 22 or 23 for their first 1/2 season taste of professional baseball. Juniors will likely be 22 years old their entire first year in the minors - some 23.

It's not littered with organization filler, as I have already presented. Fangraphs - where I pulled the dataset from - clearly states that players should be compared to the average age of their peers at their levels in scouting circles. They don't remove some random elderly outliers from the sample set because it his minimal - at best - impact on the overall ouput. Show me one person or publication that has discounted a 22 year old for his production at A+. As I said, there's no point in furthering this discussion because once people start taking samples and breaking them down to even smaller samples, it deludes the data sets and makes them much less reliable or accurate.

Why would we go through 247 when the data sample I used is of nearly 10,000 players? The smaller the sample the greater the variance. If you think the majority of prospects debut at 23 or younger you are greatly mistaken.

He was 22.5 last year for his season. Why are we talking about his current age when discussing his production last year? He will be 23 for this season and at AA.

When you start to argue statistics - that are a culmination of mass data - by using random individual and anecdotal evidence to support your cause I tend to dismiss it. The importance of a prospect is to either be younger or equal to the age of your peers at your level. No one discounts Luis Gonzalez because he put up those numbers at A+ at 22 years old. No one.

Saying Steele Walker is not an essential prospect because there are higher ranked outfielders in the system is not how successful organizations operate. Steele Walker will not become expendable until the Sox have 3 + MLB of'ers. As of today, hey have zero.

No. They wouldnt. I would link the piece breaking this down, but apparently people hate statistics here for some odd reasons. If the average rookie age is 24.5, then the average A+ age being 22.5 makes complete sense. And given that the vast majority of debuts are made by legit prospects, it shows that no... the top 200 are not coming up significantly younger. Maybe the top 5.

No they're not. AAA is where organizational players go. The average age of someone in AAA is 28. Every single player in high A is younger than 26. 24.5 is the average age of a rookie. Expecting a college draftee to debut by 22 or 23 leaves pretty much zero developmental time and unless you're a huge draft pick you're not going to get moved up that fast regardless. And no, there are thousands of MLB rookies. A few outliers are not inflating the number.

The average age of someone at A+ is 22.5. AA is 23.8. Gonzalez is on the same path as plenty of prospects and is by no account old for his level. Average MLB debut is 24.5. Gonzalez is on that trajectory.